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Rep. Paul Gosar said that the "homosexual-promoting" general "would be hung" in a better society.

Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ) called for the execution of General Mark Milley, the chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in a homophobic tirade this weekend.

In his newsletter this weekend – published to his Congressional website – Gosar accused Milley of being a “homosexual-promoting-BLM-activist” who delayed the military’s response to the January 6 riot. An election denier, Gosar has in the past claimed that he “started the revolution,” referring to the insurrection.

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[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 192 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If all the quotes in the article, both from Gosar and Trump, are correct, that's pretty outrageous. I didn't fact-check them.

In any case, I heard Milley interviewed by Fareed Zakaria about a week ago. You can tell that he is completely bemused by all these crazy Republicans accusing him of being "woke". He is an old, white, grizzled, buzz-cut, 45-year army general. He is the epitome of The Establishment. In any previous decade, he would have been a staunch conservative. But the Republicans have gone crazy and alienated all of the sane conservatives.

[–] dhtseany@lemmy.ml 58 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We need more than 2 political parties to fix this shit show now, I don't believe what we've got now is sustainable, especially on the right.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

We almost had it when the Tea Party was spinning off into their own party. However, in a grab for relevancy the GOP agreed to drink their crazy KoolAid to maintain the bodies in the GOP.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like the Australian system better. It ain't perfect, but it is better imo. Regardless, dragging the conservatives kicking and screaming into modernity, much less the future, has thus far proven to be a mixed bag at best. The fact that they're currently backsliding is hard as they possibly can isn't helping.

[–] 50MYT@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

MMP is the "better" system.

No system is perfect. NZ went from First past the post (what the USA uses) to MMP.

The aus system is pretty good too, but still dominated by two parties.

[–] Staple_Diet@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

It's really three parties though, the Liberals have needed the Nationals quite often in order to gain the house. Plus last election we saw a surge in support for independents, who are actually being extremely effective in both Parliament and Senate. Lastly, year-on-year the Greens poach more from both sides as climate change becomes topical.

[–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

"Vote for your preferred colour of neoliberal party"

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

One party is relatively conservative and the other is batshit insane and fascist. We need a party that represents the progressive majority in this country.

[–] centof@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

FYI: There is the Forward party that is trying to get started. https://www.forwardparty.com/. They are focusing their efforts on 12 states local elections to start with. They are intentionally not trying to only compete at the federal level to start locally.

[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry to be petty but isn't he 65?

[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

the 45 years refers to service term i believe

[–] danojo@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't take issue with your point, but he's 65. I doubt there are many, if any, 45 year old 4 star generals.

[–] nueonetwo@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Think he meant 45 years in the army. Could be wrong though.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I meant he has been in the army for 45 years. I worded it poorly.

[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

You didn't, people just misread it

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Haha, I worded that poorly. I meant to say that he's been in the military for 45 years.

[–] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After 30, it's straight downhill to the grave.

I heard it best: aging is when you wake up with a new pain and wonder if it's permanent.

Signed, An almost 40 yo.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It is.

Signed, a 53 yo.