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Indian foreign ministry claims ‘security threats’ after Trudeau’s explosive allegation of state-sponsored killing mean it cannot provide visa services safely

India says it is indefinitely suspending visa services in all categories for all Canadian nationals due to “security threats” to its consulates, amid a furious diplomatic row between the two countries.

Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Arindam Bagchi said they have suspended “all categories” of visas, including e-visas and for Canadian citizens applying from third countries.

And India has also moved to downsize the Canadian diplomatic presence in New Delhi, saying that Canada has more embassy workers in its capital than visa versa and that it wants to restore “parity”.

It comes after Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau said there were “credible allegations” of the Indian state’s involvement in the murder of Sikh separatist leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar in Canada, triggering a furious tit-for-tat row.

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[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (33 children)

That's what India wants....

They want to stop the brain drain their country is experiencing. If they outright forbid their citizens from emigrating, then they're obviously the bad guys.

If they can make other countries stop Indians from immigrating, the. It Stokes the "us against the world" sentiment that far authoritarian goverments need to stay in power.

The absolute worst thing any country can do to India, is open up for refugees from there. People would be throwing out their Indian citizenship left and right

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[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

India seems to be one of their biggest sources of immigrants. Looks like they hoover up tech workers.

Likely works in Canada's favour to not do the same.

[–] Art3sian@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

India is the world’s biggest source of immigrants.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's got 1/8 (well 3/16) of the population. Not surprising.

[–] ruford1976@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

what is the difference between expats and immigrants?

[–] wdx@feddit.de 32 points 1 year ago

There is none. Expats are immigrants that don't like to be associated with immigrants from poorer countries.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not sure if this is a serious question or not.

There is no difference between an expat and an immigrant. It's a term white people like to use to avoid calling themselves immigrants, because in their mind that's a term reserved for brown people..

Edit: I am a white btw

[–] Neato@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Expats are what white people call themselves because they think "immigrants" sounds low class. There is no difference. You mostly see it from American and Western Europeans when they move abroad.

[–] kickstink@mas.to 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Neato @MicroWave @Touching_Grass @Lmaydev @Art3sian @ruford1976 (paraphrasing a tweet from years ago here) White people also coined the term “microdosing” because “taking drugs” sounds a bit too scummy.

[–] Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

microdosing [ˈmīkrōˌdōsiNG] NOUN

the action or practice of taking or administering very small amounts of a drug in order to test or benefit from its physiological action while minimizing undesirable side effects:
"microdosing would allow tiny amounts of new drugs to be safely given to human volunteers"

It's a method currently being used to test very small doses of psychedelics, to see the effects on mental disorders.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You have a bunch of wrong answers.

Expats intend to go back to their home country after some time.

Immigrants intend to stay at their destination country.

Granted the term is misused by white people who want to call themselves expats instead of calling themselves immigrants.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

An expat is a person who resides abroad for work for a fixed period and intents to move back home once their contract has ended. However the term expats is used by high educated immigrants who don’t want to be called immigrants especially white people.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Expats move to where cost of living is cheaper so they can retire early.

Immigrants move to where it's higher in search of jobs.

People argue it's the same thing so they should be called the same thing, but if it's for two different reasons, it makes sense there's two different words for it.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no difference. Both are moving elsewhere (immigrating) to increase their quality of life.

[–] TheDankHold@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you strip the context to its most basic form then yeah they’re both moving somewhere to nebulously increase their quality of life. Much like elevators and stairs are the same thing because they’re infrastructure that allows you to reach floors in a building that aren’t ground level.

[–] heartfelthumburger@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

I don't agree with that comparison. Expats and immigrants are doing the same thing. For different reasons sure, but the way they do it is the about the same. Imo people like to call themselves expats because they don't wanna be associated with other immigrants.

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Immigrants intend to become citizens of their new country. Expats work there under temporary residence conditions and return home or to their next posting when done.

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Green cards (permanent resident card) in the US are processed in queues. The queues are based on your country of birth. Last I checked Chinas queue time is around 5 years whereas Indias is around 10 years.