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[โ€“] wewbull@feddit.uk 35 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I'm going to be bold. The internal combustion engine car.

There will be a tipping point where nobody wants to maintain the highly intricate manufacturing for them, and they will stop very quickly. Electric motors are the future and the transition is accelerating. We're currently around 20% of new sales and I expect after 60-70% ICEs will just disappear from sale.

[โ€“] umbrella@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

we still see a lot of 20-40yr old cars around, many daily driven. if we suddenly stop making ice cars today, its still taking a while for them to truly go away in practical terms.

[โ€“] freebee@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Most countries will be raising taxes on fuel even more and in general it will become less available fast: gas stations, mechanics who know how to fix the ICE old timers etc. it will become a hobby thing (like old timers today already). Certain niches will keep ICE way longer (heavy construction vehicles etc) but it will suddenly become quite rare in 20 or 30 years to see a regular old ICE driven by a regular person doing regular things like commuting or so.

[โ€“] Analog@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

For heavy construction vehicles only three main factors need to align: normal replacement schedule, enough capacity for the heaviest day (which is quite predictable in many industries,) and the charging infrastructure.

The last one is a major hurdle and is holding back EVs on all levels already. In the US it is also the least likely to see improvement anytime soon

[โ€“] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

carburators arent a thing in my country for at least 30 years now but plenty of people around who still know how to work on them.

become quite rare in 20 or 30 years

yea thats what i meant. ICE won't be going anywhere at all in 10 years, but about 30 yes i can see it

[โ€“] Scrollone@feddit.it 5 points 2 days ago

I think the EU has plans to stop the sale of ICEs in 10 years, so... that could start a snowball effect.

[โ€“] folaht@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I don't think that's bold.
It's already at 25% last month and 50+% in China.

[โ€“] wewbull@feddit.uk 7 points 3 days ago

It's only the timescale I'm unsure about.

[โ€“] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A majority of Chinas EVs outside of Shenzhen are hybrids. Unless youre counting vespas, there's way more electrics.

[โ€“] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I believe this.. But the USA being an exception

[โ€“] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 2 points 19 hours ago

They are rolling coal in the wasteland while civilised people live in the clouds, jetsons style