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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

Wasn't the great leap forward by Mao the biggest mass murder in world history, according to historians not governments?

Doesn't whitewashing that amount to Holocaust denial level cultural blindness?

I know nothing, quick Google search.

[–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Yeah lots of people died but the cultural revolution and Great Leap Forward but it has been over for 50 years now, meanwhile how many millions of people have had their lives ruined by US sanctions or wars in the last 70 years? Imperial countries export their misery so that people like you and me can live nice comfortable lives. Meanwhile we point at other countries who were deliberately impoverished for our benefit. When leaders in those countries try to take back their wealth they’re assassinated, when trade unionists try to organise to give the workers better rights they’re tortured and then assassinated. At least the Great Leap Forward only negatively impacted Chinese people, meanwhile you get to sit smugly on your computer or phone and eat your chocolate bar that was built or farmed with the blood of poor labourers in Africa and when those poor people try to rise up to better their conditions our governments and their fascist lackeys will be there in minutes killing them for you so you can keep getting cheap treats.

Also do you really think there is no political repression in the west? I recently read the obituary of a guy who was in my local communist party who was denied work his whole life because he was an „unteachable communist“ being on the wrong side of the ruling classes ideology sucks no matter where you are.

[–] germanixx@lemmings.world 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Just have a look at Germany. They abolished the stasi and not even 25 years later they're back to being nazis.

It's necessary to neuter the white wingers from time to time

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

In short, no, that was cold war propaganda. These intro articles get into some of the details of the Mao era:

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I could find books that say the Nazis are great guys too. Doesn't make it right.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Getting people to read even short articles is impossible.

Just be honest with yourself any say that you're not looking to challenge your orientalist biases, that you just want things to confirm them.

The communists were the ones who defeated fascism in ww2, Mao being one of the most important leaders in that fight against japanese fascism. To equate Mao with nazis or the axis powers, who they shed so much blood to defeat, is sickening.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

And you are impartial, saying someone you do not know has an "orientalist" bias. Throwing out pejorative words, linking to lengthy fringe arguments like a Trump supporter telling me to watch Hannity.

I see you're defending your heroes by parsing words and cherry-picking books and news and rallying your arguments (and propaganda) to defend them. I expected nothing less from you; it's exactly the same thing a Trump supporter would do.

Carry on, comrade. Enjoy yourself. You have the evangelistic fervor of a Baptist preacher.