this post was submitted on 28 Jun 2025
423 points (98.2% liked)

World News

47864 readers
4080 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 26 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly, NATO might be better off without them

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

Agreed. Drumpf is Pootins "man"*on the inside. Look to him to delay and prevaricate any NATO decision, and generally try to sabotage them

  • Drumph is NOT a man. He's a cowardly little orange shit weasel.
[–] brad_troika@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Why do you think that? How would losing half the military assets and technology would benefit NATO?

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Half the military and technology assets that won't ever actually be used to help NATO under Trump.

He'll veto every action that goes against Russia... Which is what NATO was originally formed to do...

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 17 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

The US is great at spending money in the military, but it absolutely sucks at actual war.

Look how they wasted trillions in Afghanistan to surrender to the Taliban.

the US military exists solely to funnel tax payer money to military shareholders.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Actually, if you're curious, look up how many wars the US has actually outright won on their own without being part of a coalition of allies.

The answer is shockingly few.

Even their great revolution needed help from an, at the time, true superpower i.e. the French.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 7 points 1 hour ago

checked a wiki page about that.

it's frankly embarrassing how much the US military actually sucks.

likely human history most expensive military, and a complete waste of resources

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 4 points 2 hours ago

Yeah but we won the war om werewolves.

[–] Buske@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That was to funnel money, steal gold, and oil.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago

in a way, the "mission accomplished" was true

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'll grant you it's a big racket, it's corrupt, it's inefficient, but I don't think it's a skill issue.

https://youtu.be/d5v6hlRyeHE

I wouldn't consider failing to win the hearts and minds of the local populace using violence a military failure rather than a policy failure.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 7 points 3 hours ago

Ukraine showed that modern warfare is a different game than it used to.

it's s resource war, cheap drones can cause lots of damage, and it is far more costly to fight them. long range rockets, v defense systems...

and given that US have painfully expensive toys, they won't be able to hold of again a cheap enemy.

yhea, Maybe the F22 can outmanoeuvre another airplane in a dogfight, but who tf needs a dogfight? the enemy can just launch a volley of self guided missiles that costs 100x to intercept.