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[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The police should not exist

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Cops don't even keep the peace. What peace is there to be had if you have no money? The cops are trained to deal violence on behalf of the rich. Their training and experience is inextricably linked to the objective of preserving capitalism, and is therefore useless for whatever comes afterward.

For these reasons, we need to fully abolish the police while simultaneously establishing alternative systems outside and in opposition to the State to keep each other safe.

Never capitulate to right-wing framings.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think defunding the police is a right-wing framing 😆

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I argue that it is, in fact, a right-wing framing 😁. It's a liberal framing, and liberals are right-wing.

"Defunding the police" is a liberal distortion of "abolishing the police". Defunding the police uncritically reinforces the notion that police are a necessary part of a free society, but only need to be "debloated". The militarization of police is not a bug; it's a feature! It's the police evolving into exactly what they are meant to be.

And the defunding the police issue perfectly reveals why liberals are right-wing: because liberals do not object to capitalism. The primary purpose of police is to deploy violence against the subjects in order to maintain capitalism—an oppression liberals have no problem with. Sure they are the left-wing of capital in the United States, but that still makes them right-wing in the large because they advocate for the unjustifiable hierarchy of capitalism and the existence of police to enforce that power.