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It's possible some dumbass got into power and had some goons put the spider into the glass and put tariffs on importing silk. The spider is dead and we'll never know if the spider would be dead had there been a competent in charge. But socialists are 100% certain the spider was going to die anyway because they believe all spiders will inevitably die because some weirdo with a big beard said something about spiders a couple hundred years ago.
Metaphorically speaking, of course.
No, Marx said Capitalism was a necessary stage of Socialism. It's not that it dies, it's necessary and becomes Socialism.
Marx for instance would have disagreed with Mao/China's initial attempt to jump straight to Socialism... And that mistaken attempt was born out by history (as being a mistake), as it ultimately failed, and China had to open its self to becoming a Socialist Market Economy (in order to make up for its missing the Capitalist steps of becoming inevitably a Socialist society).
There's a letter towards the end of his life where he speculates about Russia, specifically, skipping the capitalist stage because of cultural reasons.
Arising from a capitalist and industrial system is less of a requirement and more of what he considers to be the most likely scenario. You could, for example, in theory have a peasant revolution but you'd either need to attract industrial expertise to modernize your factories or reinvent a lot of wheels.
And, of course, Marxism isn't the only socialism.
Marx is kinda hilarious, bad father, vaguely antisemitic, bet on the stock market. Funny guy. I love that conservatives are so freaked out by him.