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[–] Davriellelouna@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Controversial opinion: This is actually a very good thing.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Only if it comes back up again eventually.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Agreed. Build more dense housing, incentivize more public transit, and plan for both of those things to become higher in demand (and close the TFW minimum wage loophole), then we can start inviting folks into our country again to provide us the value that they objectively can.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

and close the TFW minimum wage loophole

What do you mean about this part? As far as I can tell, a higher wage is actually required for TFWs.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

We need provinces and the feds to communicate and plan together more effectively in both immigrations and housing terms. We need to have a plan to make sure that people coming in have housing and employment opportunities without a public opinion developing that these opportunities are being taken away from existing Canadians.

Currently the feds can say we want to bring in 1 million people, the provinces can say sure but we won't plan for that at all (but they do want the workers) and then throw the feds under the bus when the province faces a housing crisis. Then the local politicians spin it as either exclussively the feds fault or even blame the immigrants, as if they had any say in housing or employment development.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

That's not controversial at all among real life tim hortons Canadians. We don't have enough houses for immigrants right now. Or really any infrastructure for that matter. The facts do not lie.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Where do houses and infrastructure come from? Does the government wave a wand and they appear?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Crown corporations/government contracts and loans

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They could do that but the entire CPP is invested into REITs so it won't happen.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Are you implying houses are only built by immigrants

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Obviously not. Where do houses and infrastructure come from, though? Like, what's involved in the creation of these things.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They don't come from anywhere when your entire economy rides on inflated real estate values

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why do you refuse to answer the question I asked?

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I literally don't know what you want from me

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

...To answer the question I asked.