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Hm. Don't know.
This one?
Yeah, can be banned.
But this one?
Don't know. While it's a fair bit shorter than an f150, it's still a big-ass car. But is it an unethical car? It fits a lot of stuff or a lot of people or a fair amount of both, but I guess the same thing is true for the f150. Visibility is much better I guess, but would pick ups be more moral if they had a lower hood?
Like, yeah, I hate pick ups, too, but what's their defining aspect? What's the law that gets rid of large SUVs but keeps station wagons? Or is the law just going to get rid of all larger cars?
I'm not trying to argue against the idea of banning dick comparison cars, this is a genuine question.
We've had station wagons for a very long time now. A big Ford Mondeo we had was a relatively low car, without an enormous bonnet.
Cars continue to get wider, longer and higher off the ground (there's this Kia that looks like you're driving around in a fridge), whilst the stuff we move within them isn't exactly increasing. it's just bigger for the sake of being bigger, and that's causing issues in the streets.
Not true for every car. Small cars get bigger, too, but because nowadays there are way more safety features built in. Side impact protection needs space, too, for example. Also, especially smaller cars get more roomy and comfortable, too (except the Twingo, for some reason).
That being said: fuck SUVs and trucks. They're much bigger than they need to be and just status symbols.
You are missing my point. To turn this into a law, there need to be clear rules of what is or isn't allowed.
The Kia you're talking about is this one I guess? The EV5?
Unfortunately, the size comparison site I used doesn't have that, but it is apparently similar to their "Sportage" SUV, so I took the long wheel base version of that one to compare it against your old Mondeo...
... which is longer than the SUV...
... and only 5cm less wide ...
... and has much less cargo volume.
So, what kind of rules do you come up with to get rid of the one but not the other? Height? Then what about the vans? And how is height making a car more or less unethical?
So far, the 3.5 ton weight limit seems to have worked well for keeping the most ridiculous American cars off European streets. But it seems that's not enough, so what other rules could be used to define which cars shouldn't be allowed to drive around? It's obviously not weight because we already have that. It's apparently not the size because despite most arguments, SUVs aren't always much bigger than other cars that are usually perceived as fine. So what is it??
Bonnet height, as the article suggests. Or do the responsible thing and measure front visibility, so you don't hit vans in the process.
But isn't that already part of regulations 78/2009 and 2019/2144?
I mean, I'm all for it, but if it's just that it seems the goal is to get more detailed regulations for the bonnet then that's great, but I fail to see how that would get rid of SUVs or other larger cars.
Also don't misunderstand me there... Reducing bonnet height to protect pedestrians on impact is a good thing and should be done. I just don't think it'd reduce car weight or size, so if that's the goal then it won't help.
EuroNCAP suggested to try to change something, apparently they are not catching in their test, but they acknowledge the issue
https://etsc.eu/calls-grow-to-address-safety-risks-of-large-vehicles-in-urban-areas/
Fair enough.
It's utterly bizarre, I'm looking to replace a Mondeo estate some time in the next couple of years. Frankly, SUVs are not a viable alternative - they have no boot space, they are less functional by a long chalk in that regard.
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Fair point. I agree.
I always assumed that the bonnet height was one of the reasons why you couldn't really drive one of those in Europe anyway. But if that's not the case then yes, adjusting that should be done.
(Also I drive a van and I think it's cool since obviously I'm cool and so my car kinda has to be, too, so I'm not sure if I agree with your first point.)
sorry, my mistakes. Vans can be absolutely cool. I think the electric one from VW is extremely cool. It's just not the kind of cool that people with fragile masculinity would desire