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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social -4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Last time, the French resisted and we helped when we and England showed up.

Now we are resisting, while we wait for backup from the French and English.

[–] RubberDuck@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (3 children)

And yet notice that no Western democracy has condemned this.

When Iran protests and the police get violent against them, the west condemns them and pledges supports for democracy and yet here there's silence.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That's because their "morals and values" are a complete lie, anyway.

Theyre hypocrites, claiming to support human rights yet directly backing multiple genocides/unjust invasions (Palestine/Yemen/Sudan/Iraq as an example), championing democracy and then couping democratically elected leaders that disobey them, for far-right, religious dictators that bow down to them (operation cyclone, chile, assassination of Sankara, Suez crisis, etc), and this (NOT EVEN) all happened in less than 80 years. There's way too much to cover in a single comment.

Edit: just for clarity, this isn't just directed to the US; The west in general.

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not saying that these protests aren't getting suppressed but: The Iranian Police didn't use rubber bullets to shoot protesters. They actually shot protesters. They abducted a 16 year old girl, raped and beat her to death and 2 weeks later returned the body to the family, claiming she committed suicide.

They hanged at least 8 people for protesting. The Iranian state didn't just get violent, they slaughtered their citizens in the streets.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

They abducted a 16 year old girl

So that's where they got inspiration from.

[–] match@pawb.social 2 points 3 days ago

Have we asked them yet?

[–] PirateFrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't think we'll be getting any backup this time, it's up to us.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

IMO, other nations like Canada, Germany, and so forth will have relations with the Blue States in a civil war. Trump's regime is a terrible trading partner, dishonest, evil, abrasive, and generally just unlikable for anyone who has good sense or pragmatism. During the 1st American Civil War, the South had major issues, because they didn't have much trade with Europe - which meant supply shortages, a lack of wealth, and so forth. That cotton may have been picked by slaves, but isn't going to become lucre if it sits in a warehouse.

After awhile, when the Blue States have a more formal coalition, I think Europe will go beyond trade to offer war support. That is the sort of thing that needs troops to be readied, mentally and materially. It would be kinda like how America was in the leadup to Pearl Harbor. We were doing stuff to indirectly support the Allies, even if our blood wasn't spilt.

[–] PirateFrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I can't discount that possibility. I could see them supplying the blue states covertly, similar to how France did during the Spanish Civil War, but I'm not so confident on if they'd send boots to help.

This does assume the military fractures for an open civil war to take place. Without that, we're looking at an Irish troubles situation, I figure.

from my central european perspective, currently there is not much we could do. It is an matter of internal US politics, and on the grand scale, it's not like your whole country is on fire. Sure, we can send harsh letters or something, but i don't think our input would even make it on the topics debated in congress. And everything else like military action would just make us the enemy. i don't think there is anything that would unite the US faster than that - under TACOs banner, so thats the last thing you want (ignoring that we couldn't even pull something like this off without help from China, noone else comes even close in military strength. don't forget, you guys have the strongest airforce, and then the second strongest airforce, and i think the 4th strongest airforce is US too)

so, you have my moral support, and i can post in your support, but i think thats about it until you are deep into civil war territory. sorry 😟