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[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honest question, at what point does a workshop transition from ownable to not

If you also live in it, it becomes personal property - ie, ownable by you personally.

or in the outdoors of town among large factories?

I mean, that pretty much means it already is factory-like and no, it doesn't become ownable (unless you also live in it). If it involves other people's labor, then all the grey areas vanishes - it becomes communal.

The picture above is not completely accurate - a community might decide, for instance, that all firearms must be communally owned - ie, as in a communal arsenal (essentially a library for guns) - which, let's face it, would probably be necessary anywhere in the US (because it has more guns than people - and far less sense).

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't like communism then.

Letting the "commune" take over a workshop would immediately break everything.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the thing... there won't be police around to protect your private property for you - which means that no-one is going to be forced to labor for your profit. If you have people working in that workshop, nothing will stop them from appropriating it from you and running it as a co-op for the benefit of the community and not you exclusively. This is why the wealthy and the privileged hates socialism.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I mean if you and your cousins have unlimited access to the machines, the machines will break.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

No, I mean there won’t be police around to protect your private property for you - which means that no-one is going to be forced to labor for your profit.