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[–] norbert@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On the same hand, even if you don't subscribe to capitalist ideology you're forced to participate.

We (at least in the U.S.) have no real safety net for people who are unable to provide for themselves for whatever reason. Capitalism is great if you're the one with the capital but if not the world can be a brutal, uncaring place and you can quite literally die on the street.

Crime is endemic to capitalism and I feel like better social safety nets would pay huge dividends in a lot of ways.

[–] C4RP3_N0CT3M@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

That may be accurate, but we were discussing communism, not capitalism.

[–] rainh@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Capitalism is not an ideology though. It's just what naturally happens when humans interact with each other. Saying it's an ideology is like saying atheism is a religion. No, it's what happens when there is no religion.

Crime is also not endemic to capitalism. It happens in all societies, including communist ones.

[–] norbert@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

There are many many primitive societies with no concept of capital or capitalism so I think I'd take issue with your assertion that capitalism is "just what naturally happens when humans interact with each other."