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[–] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

41 seems fairly specific to me in the article, but we should remember that hit does not mean destroyed

[–] martin4598@lemm.ee 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

An aircraft hit by explosive is usually pretty much unairworthy, at least for some times.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And I’m guessing Russia doesn’t have much of a supply of usable spare parts for all these aircraft.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Some of these aircraft are leftovers from the USSR days and were built in Ukraine so there are no parts and no facilities in Russia to make them.

For the modern ones, Russia is having trouble getting the parts due to sanctions, even with all the help from China.

I'm a particular fan of Ukrainians destroying Ukrainian built war equipment in use by Russians. It's beautiful.

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Noel says 41 were TARGETED, citing official sources

[–] AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, if you set a bomb off on a plane that is most likely fuel laden, you're not going to be able to fly that plane again. If the air frame isn't completely destroyed, it's going to take months or years to repair, functionally rendering it destroyed.

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Right my point is we don't know how many "targeted" planes were actually hit. Like does that mean they launched drones with the intention of hitting them? Does it mean Zelinsky pointed to a satellite image and said "try to get that plane on the airfield"? I hope they get as many as possible but I'm still a little skeptical of the 40 plane claim. Let's wait and see, satellite images will be able to prove it one way or another.

[–] AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's drone footage already out there showing the planes burning.

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah I've seen drone footage of 4-5 planes burning though, not 40. It would not be the first time Ukraine has made a big exaggerated claim.

Edit: "🇺🇦 Andriy Kovalenko, head of Ukraine’s Center for Countering Disinformation, reports that at least 13 Russian aircraft were destroyed and additional aircraft damaged during Ukraine’s large-scale operation "Spiderweb" on June 1." Downvote me all you want. Source

[–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All I'd say is that isn't an exaggerated claim. They said 41 targeted, any assumption about how many were hit is not coming from them.

Equally, the quote you have provided confirms just that they know of at least 13 destroyed. It could be 41 were hit but only 13 destroyed.

This also implies:

  1. they are still assessing the total impact and 2. arguably are doing exactly the opposite of what you stated by only counting known destruction and not exaggerating
[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The headline in this post says 41 hit. That is the clarification I was trying to make.

[–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

You're right, I apologise