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[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Racism is racism yes. But what you're pointing out isn't racism. You are accusing him of racism for pointing out the long-term impacts of The United States long and continuing history of racism. That is a completely different thing. And it is pretty disingenuous of you to imply otherwise. Further if he is part of the group you're accusing her of being bigoted against. That is a pretty silly thing to imply. And I have to say you are in wrong here.

As the other guy said, replace literally any other race with ‘white’ in it and it suddenly sounds extremely racist; especially if you include any other stereotype in there, like saying ‘(insert race) run media is responsible for (insert negative race stereotype here)’. That was the original point, which is that the way this line was written comes across as racist.

Also, idk who died and made that guy the representative of ‘all white people’ but I think you’d agree that a black guy defending racism against his own race would still be called a racist, or at least an enabler. The African-American community even has a specific term for it.

He already did. Things like slavery, segregation, redlining, and discrimination much of which does still get seen today. Explains it handily.

Saying it’s explained by ‘lul whites’ is nothing more than racism itself; especially when you continue to blame white people today for ‘enabling fascism’, especially when said ‘white people’ are liberals.

And then why did you go on to throw up all those strawmen? None of that was anything he ever implied accused or even addressed. It simply doesn't have anything to do with the discussion. Those are all non sequiter.

What strawmen? I simply pointed out that the article pointing fingers at ‘white run media’ gives this an unnecessary race angle, and that if you don’t deny it, there’s at least an implicit understanding that media run by people of any other color would be dissimilar, in their view.

Perhaps you should answer your own question. Why is it that white males are so overrepresented in such positions. I think that's the much more pertinent and interesting question to ask. And you have not answered that.

That’s not a question I asked. I’m well aware of what you’re trying to shift the narrative towards, and I’m not having it. Stop blaming ‘institutionalized racism’ for everything, including the ills of capitalism.

[–] oddsbodkins@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not even remotely racist. One cannot be racist by simply pointing out an actual verifiable fact. Beyond a lion's share of CEOs and owners are disproportionately white. Especially when it comes to media companies. And that isn't a racist thing to say that simply an observation. To say that only white people should be CEOs would be raised. You are grasping at straws. Basically seeking and excuse to be outraged. Would it be racist for me to say that most slaves in America were and still are black? Because it's a verifiable fact. Not all were but most were and still are.

I agree you never actually ask the question. Though if you were ever to be honest you would have asked it of yourself. But you aren't being honest. You are just going around the screaming racism at facts you don't like. Quite childish.

[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

lol funny that you (and others) keep making the same ‘but it’s just stating facts!!!’ argument rather than actually addressing the core of the discussion, which is that (insert race)-controlled (insert institution) is encouraging/helping spread (insert stereotype)!!!’ would be considered racist by anyone if used for any other race.

Go ahead, tell me that swapping around communities and institutions wouldn’t make it sound like some extremely common rhetoric that you’ve obviously heard elsewhere.