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[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Are you okay?

I didn't compare mine to yours at all. You're the one that said your 28 USD service was a better deal. YOU made the comparison. YOU asked for the details.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, he provided details for his internet first. You're the one who came in comparing your business contract internet with his non-business one. Did you just conveniently forget that?

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You need to scroll up and pay attention.

Them:

My ISP offers symmetrical [...] glad I'm not American

Me:

As someone living in America, I have great internet

Them:

Me:

Them:
<makes a comparison without qualifying anything about the comparison, claiming theirs to be superior>

Me:

They provided no details at all... this whole engagement. We still don't actually know what speeds they even get for their mere 28USD. Could be 100mbps and it would be significantly worse by ever metric than my 8gbps. I can't compare my service to something that we have no details for.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He provided details about his non-business internet being symmetrical and YOU compared it to your business contract line, that's literally how it started.

The cost is to prove that Americans do not have easy access to the same level of internet his country has, which is his main point. You needed to purchase a business line to have it symmetrical, which is not accessible to the everyone.

Just because you can pay 100 times the cost of healthcare in European countries to get high quality heathcare in America, it doesn't mean the average American can afford to go to the hospital or that your healthcare system is just as good. The same thing applies to your internet.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He provided details about his non-business internet being symmetrical and YOU compared it to your business contract line, that’s literally how it started.

To my residential house... of which my neighbor can get the same service, under a residential contract. Also they didn't say if their internet was residential or not.

The cost is to prove that Americans do not have easy access to the same level of internet his country has, which is his main point. You needed to purchase a business line to have it symmetrical, which is not accessible to the everyone.

No. My neighbor can also get 8/8, under a different SLA as residential. I only provided "under business contract" because that changes the price.

Just because you can pay 100 times the cost of healthcare in European countries to get high quality heathcare in America, it doesn’t mean the average American can afford to go to the hospital or that your healthcare system is just as good. The same thing applies to your internet.

You're not making a good look for your stance when you over hyperbolize the situation. I pay 5.89 times more... for what could be 8-80 times more speed. We don't know because THERE IS NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If your neighbour can also get symmetrical internet with a residential contract, then that would be the better example to prove his point wrong.

A business contract is not a good comparison because they usually are symmetrical for a premium price regardless of the quality of the residential internet in your area.

Even in my country you can get symmetrical internet with a business contract, yet I'll never claim my country's internet is comparable to one that do provide it for a normal residential connection, because we don't have that option here.

And he did say his internet was a normal domestic internet, btw.

You're not making a good look for your stance when you over hyperbolize the situation.

I needed to hyperbolize the situation because you can't seem to grasp why a business line wasn't a good comparison, as you can see from how it works in my country. All you needed to do was provide the point that the symmetrical internet is not exclusive to a business contract and it would have made your argument completely valid.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If your neighbour can also get symmetrical internet with a residential contract, then that would be the better example to prove his point wrong.

Sure, but I don't get their bill now do I?

A business contract is not a good comparison because they usually are symmetrical for a premium price regardless of the quality of the residential internet in your area.

Which was the point of me bringing it up... my price is likely higher than my neighbor. But I know that the same speeds are available. Symmetric.

Once again though... Without more information we can't actually compare but at face value... I pay 5.89 times for for presumably 8-80 times more speed. EVEN ON MY BUSINESS CONTRACT. Hard to say that their service is categorically better than mine...

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

Man, you're still missing the point and you wonder why I had to resort to hyperbole. Nvm, since you don't actually seem interested with disproving his point effectively and still want to compare prices despite it being irrelevant to the actual point, there's not much use with continuing this discussion. You've provided information that proved half his point about US internet is incorrect, and that's good enough for me.