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[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It's easy to blame capitalism for this and I don't disagree it's pretty broken right now but I've been all over the world and people are largely like this. In India I heard a lot of "rich people deserve it because they have good karma" in China I heard a lot of "rich people just work harder or come from a great family" against all visible evidence.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Thats because the Western capitalist worldview has spread globally.

Many of these countries had more socialist systems after establishing their respective post colonial governments but embraced more protectionist strategies or had sanctions placed on them by the wealthiest (Western) nations for not playing ball with the neoliberal capitalist agenda.

Basically, the West stole from them for centuries through settler colonialism, left with the riches and then said 'you better do things our way or we will refuse to do trade with you and you will continue to starve'

The world has had no choice to embrace it, for better or for worse.

Western capitalist mores are actively brainwashing us into thinking wealth is virtue. Might is right. It is not.

[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think once you see how much damage colonization did it's easy to blame everything on that one evil. But that's oversimplifying to an extreme extent.

For example, I really doubt the idea of class based karma (or karma based class perhaps) was a colonial introduction to India. I'm not disagreeing with you that modern capitalism is bad or saying that colonialism wasn't damaging, those are both true, but it's pretty damn patronizing to says "they couldn't have had bad socioeconomic practices without us" Hell they had a literal caste system of worker exploitation long before we showed up.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It was not a colonial based introduction but it was institutionalized by colonists.

I'm glad that we agree modern capitalism is problematic and the history of colonialism (and the modern Western world) is predicated on evil, exploitative, inhumane and non-egalitarian principles.

I didn't say that they couldn't have bad socioeconomic practices without [the West]. I simply stated that a forced assimilation to a capitalist worldview has occurred globally (the alternative being destitution) and which has reinforced the idea that wealth is virtue.

If we're going to have an honest reflection on caste, we first need to acknowledge that the West treated all colored peoples as low caste for hundreds of years (and it still does in many ways through neocolonialism). Inequality is inherent to modern Western capitalist dogma, just as it is in a rigid institutionalized (courtesy of colonial legacy) caste based system.