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Nick Clegg says asking artists for use permission would ‘kill’ the AI industry (www.theverge.com)

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As policy makers in the UK weigh how to regulate the AI industry, Nick Clegg, former UK deputy prime minister and former Meta executive, claimed a push for artist consent would “basically kill” the AI industry.

Speaking at an event promoting his new book, Clegg said the creative community should have the right to opt out of having their work used to train AI models. But he claimed it wasn’t feasible to ask for consent before ingesting their work first.

“I think the creative community wants to go a step further,” Clegg said according to The Times. “Quite a lot of voices say, ‘You can only train on my content, [if you] first ask’. And I have to say that strikes me as somewhat implausible because these systems train on vast amounts of data.”

“I just don’t know how you go around, asking everyone first. I just don’t see how that would work,” Clegg said. “And by the way if you did it in Britain and no one else did it, you would basically kill the AI industry in this country overnight.”

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[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Or maybe the solution is in dissolving the socio-economic class hierarchy, which can only exist as an epistemic paperclip maximizer. Rather than also kneecapping useful technology.

I feel much of the critique and repulsion comes from people without much knowledge of either art/art history, or AI. Nor even the problems and history of socio-economic policies.

Monkeys just want to be angry and throw poop at the things they don't understand. No conversation, no nuance, and no understanding of how such behaviours roll out the red carpet for continued 'elite' abuses that shape our every aspect of life.

The revulsion is justified, but misdirected. Stop blaming technology for the problems of the system, and start going after the system that is the problem.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

IMO tech bros' main goal for this technology is to use it to manipulate public opinion on social media. It is perfect for it and the "daydreaming" (bullshitting) is perfect.

Notice that all social media are involved in it, Twitter was "sold" to xAI, the recent incident with Grok about South African apartheid. The 10 year ban to regulate it by states etc.

They talk about it increasing productivity (and are hoping that it could be used for that too), but if people would know it is meant for disinformation, they would be even more against skipping copyright for it.