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[–] errer@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Importantly it is hand written, no computers.

Biggest issue is that kids’ handwriting often sucks. That’s not a new problem but it’s a problem with handwritten work.

[–] Colloidal@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

Man, the US has a handwriting problem. It sucks sooo much. In other countries it seems to be only doctors, but in the US? Fucking everyone.

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

There is test-taking software that locks out all other functions during the essay-writing period. Obviously, damn near anything is hackable, but it's non-trivial, unlike asking ChatGPT to write your essay for you in the style of a B+ high student. There is some concern about students who learn differently or compose less efficiently, but as father to such a student, I'm still getting to the point where I'm not sure what's left to do other than sandbox "exploitable" graded work in a controlled environment.

[–] applemao@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I love this idea.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Speaking from a life of dyspraxia - no, not everyone with sucky handwriting is lazy, many of us would spend 95% of our capacity on making the writing legible and be challenged to learn the actual topic as a result.

I can get the essay done in time or it can be easy to read it cannot be both

[–] Norin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is why we have accommodations offices at colleges.

No problem giving an alternative for those who need it.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 11 minutes ago

In the 1980s that wasn't really a thing. Besides, it taught me a valuable skill: I partnered with someone who was good at taking notes and I was good at paying attention without taking any notes - she, too, had a problem understanding what she was writing down while writing it down, but took beautiful copies of the lecture. So, afterwards we'd get together and I'd explain her notes to her - which helped me to cement the concepts in my head, at least long enough to get through the exam, and she got her notes explained.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago

keep at it. it is worth the pain.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Computers with some encyclopedia, but no GPTs are fine, no?

If a kid can write and train a mini-GPT trainable on that encyclopedia, then maybe they deserve the mark for desperation and ingenuity and being a fucking new Leonardo.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Open book and calculators would seem reasonable. No communication or searching devices.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

No communication - of course, but about search - I don't think having a Wikipedia snapshot with search is bad.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

GPTs are fine, if you learn to disrespect their output and fix it before presenting it as your own.

Actually, taught that way, GPT may be a tool for teaching critical thinking - if the professors aren't too lazy to mark down the garbage output.

Only if the first draft is the student’s own creation otherwise they will never learn how to analyze a work and construct the argument theu want to make beginning to end.