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[–] Shawdow194@fedia.io 16 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

Also why clockwise?

Earth rotates and orbits counter clockwise. It just seems more right

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 82 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair whichever direction they made it go would be clockwise

[–] Devadander@lemmy.world 21 points 22 hours ago

True, but also it’s because of sundials

[–] mittyta@lemmy.world 73 points 23 hours ago

Because Sundials rotate clockwise ( in north hemisphere )

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 11 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Earth rotates and orbits counter clockwise.

No it doesn't. It depends on the human perception of "up" and "down" which are completely arbitrary. We by convention see the North Pole as the "top" of the world but it could as easily be seen as Antarctica.

[–] bottleofchips@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 22 hours ago

Well that depends on where you look at the earth from doesn’t it. It’s like saying ‘righty righty, lefty loosey’ which only holds true as long as you’re thinking about the top edge of the screw head.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Well, depending on which hemisphere you're standing in, at least. We arbitrarily set this idea that north = up in most depictions of the globe, but we could just as easily make Antarctica the top of the world and everything rotates the other way.

The reason why clockwise is what it is, is because sundials were first used to tell time in the northern hemisphere, where the shadows move clockwise. If it was in the southern hemisphere, they'd have moved counterclockwise (which would be clockwise).

[–] idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Before the age of exploration, orientation of maps were random. North became the norm so Europe could be placed at the top center.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Also why clockwise?

We read from left-to-right, so the front span of numbers continues that visual pattern.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

No we do not all read left to right. Countless languages are written right to left or even vertically.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

And there are a rare few instances of writing systems that alternate left-to-right and right-to-left on each line

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I know a language which kinda-sorta has two writing systems, one of which is left-to-right, the other one right-to-left.

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Skua@kbin.earth 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know which one HK65 is referring to, but I know a few examples:

  • Punjabi, which is left-to-right in India and right-to-left in Pakistan (the Indian one being influenced by older Indian scripts and the Pakistani one by Arabic)
  • Kazakh uses the RtL Arabic script in the part of China where there are a lot of Kazakhs and the LtR Cyrillic script in Kazakhstan
  • At least some of the kinds of Tamazight (spoken by Amazigh people, mostly in Morocco and Algeria) use Arabic script, but there is a script specifically for Tamazight languages called Tifinagh which goes left to right and there's also some use of the Latin alphabet for these languages
[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Now that I think about it: Yiddish is traditionally written in Hebrew script but also in Latin. I don't know if the Latin is "just" a transliteration but I think both are standardized (which wouldn't mean it's not a transliteration)

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 2 points 21 hours ago

I couldn't say much about it myself, but with it being a Germanic language influenced by Hebrew that would make sense

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Hungarian

Granted, the right-to-left thing is not used anymore outside of enthusiast circles, and is kind of an anachronism and part of a movement to revive it as part of national heritage. That said, you can find a whole bunch of town limit marker signs in both scripts around the country.

The Hungarians settled the Carpathian Basin in 895. After the establishment of the Christian Hungarian kingdom, the old writing system was partly forced out of use during the rule of King Stephen, and the Latin alphabet was adopted. However, among some professions (e.g. shepherds who used a "rovás-stick" to officially track the number of animals) and in Transylvania, the script has remained in use by the Székely Magyars, giving its Hungarian name (székely) rovásírás. The writing could also be found in churches, such as that in the commune of Atid.

From Wikipedia

[–] Devadander@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

The answer is ‘sundials’

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Yes. This post is in English.