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Scarcity is artificial with our level of technology and our ingenuity.
It's a myth, we are able to produce more than enough even with many countless individuals in dire straits maintaining the world's economy/production. We produce so much that we can afford to waste incredible amounts of food and other goods without batting an eye.
What if the individuals slaving were given the ingredients to be happy and healthy, with their human rights and needs respected?
Personally, I believe the world would get even more productive, things would start making sense, people wouldn't have to work so hard, we'd see forward movement in our societies, and without a doubt we'd see incredible advancements.
I refuse to believe that everybody would laze about, leave the "hard" jobs unattended, and let the world rot.
If we can work this hard while we are forced to survive, forced to live in lack while the landfills pile up to the sky — there's no way we wouldn't be incredibly more efficient if people could take a second to breathe and fill their cup. If everybody could take a second and look around and see where things could be even better, where they can make a difference, everything would surely very quickly improve.
There's no way to convince me that "peak productivity" is everybody emptying their cup and breaking the glass to pay debts and to afford necessities.
Not for much longer. Global fresh water demand will outstrip supply by 40% by 2030 and 90% of global top soil and arable land is at risk of depletion by 2050.
Enjoy the last of the abundance. Things are going to start getting really bad very soon.
I don't think we're doomed. I think the solarpunk movement has plenty of valid ideas to address these problems.
I am new to the movement, but it's definitely given me some optimism — I believe that we have the means to deal with any crisis with our technology, evolving understanding of the world, and ingenuity.
I am learning things every day and exploring new ideas fairly often. I don't think I am the best ambassador yet (not even close), so forgive me if I am off-base or not 100% dialed in.
Agriculture is in dire need of reform and revolution. It's unsustainable — we could more intelligently feed the world by blending agriculture with nature (e.g. by discontinuing monocropping and scaling ideas garnished from food forests) and we can explore scaling up vertical farming. We can power this by renewables and utilize wasterwater recirculation.
We can regulate industrial water usage. We can reduce animal agriculture and grow meat in labs. We can expand upon desalination technology (finding a way to derive scalable benefit from the brine and repurpose the salt) and explore other water capture technologies that all account for potential ecosystem disruption. We can make landscapes that retain water, and reforest and reduce desertification where appropriate (e.g. with ideas from the permaculture and food forest movements). We can make water pipelines and more sensibly use groundwater, respecting replenishment rates.
We can explore creating scalable synthetic terra preta and we can explore other promising ideas like this reddit thread proposes.
Solar panels are cheap to manufacture, and if we can finish the proton battery technology, we can build scalable, cheap energy storage and power scalable vertical farms, and more broadly power our societies.
I am sure for whatever crisis you can think of, there is valuable discussion in the solarpunk community to explore more nuanced, comprehensive, and educated viewpoints than my own.
You're valid in your perspective, but I don't think I am throwing my hands up just yet.
I say this all the time: we built an economic system based on scarcity, and then manufactured scarcity.
Sure but scarcity due to broken supply chains is a real thing. It doesn’t matter how wealthy you are if you physically cannot get your supplies where they are needed there will be scarcity and it will not be artificial
We do need to have more self-sufficient societal development. Shipping critical materials (raw or otherwise) and critical goods across the world doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless something is unique or a very rare resource.
We don't need to put our eggs all in one basket — global supply lines e.g. should be for specialties and artisan goods, to ship excesses in production, or be used for aid.
The current global trade system relies on exploitation and slavery (even child slavery e.g. with cocoa).
We suck third-world countries of everything they have; their land, their labor, their resources, and their goods — and all the wealth concentrates into the hands of the very few in first-world countries. The result is the stagnation of the exploited region's development — we trap them into these conditions of servitude.