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All that text just to still be dead wrong is impressive really
Nah, most Republicans I've.met are absolutely like this. You're a cis white male Republican, or you're being political and rude.
I think I triggered the Lemmy "It's an enemy! Get him!" machine with careless phrasing of the beginning, so that people took the opposite meaning from it as what I meant to say.
What do you think I am saying, that you are describing as dead wrong?
I don't think you did. I got your meaning even before you explained everything nicely. It seems more like this topic has attracted attention of the people using "political" in the twisted sense you describe.
I don't think so, actually. I think they are sincere left-wingers who love nothing more than being hostile to enemies, and once they think they've found one, they really don't want to let go of that classification because being self-righteous about the enemies being bad is a really fun thing. Sometimes they even have to invent new categories of enemies ("he doesn't want vegan cat food LET'S FUCK HIM UP") because there is a shortage and that lets them engage in what they like to do, but if they find an actual Republican or something? Boy howdy can they get going.
Honestly, I do see how it doesn't require some crazy misunderstanding to read what I originally wrote as being pro-Trump. I expected people to see the context and interpret it accordingly, as you did, but apparently not. The sarcasm part was easy to miss, I do think, I guess, if you're not already looking for it or something.
Whatever. I fixed it to be definitely clear now, my part is done, I wash my hands of it lol.
The thing you're wrong about is Star Wars not being political in the actual sense of the word. And it was explained to you by other commenters. And since you're also implying that art being political is somehow bad, you cannot admit it.
Art has always been political and that's a good thing. Next to everything we see, say or do in our day to day lives is political. People who present themselves as apolitical are being political, because they promote preserving the status quo and not rocking the boat.
No, it's because you are totally wrong about the definition of political. You made it up and spammed a wall of text.
I don't think anybody got from your comments that you're pro trump
I think you have good intentions with that post, but I also 'think' I get why you're being reamed: We cannot simply "not accept" a broadened definition of the word "political".
Words are for communication. If many, many others have already wholly swallowed the pill that any "undesirable" position on any topic is "political", then it behooves a good communicator to work with that definition, not to simply reject it for being academically inaccurate.
Basically... you're doing about the same as someone griping about others saying, "lol I'm so OCD" because they like to arrange their books alphabetically. Except on a much, much looser term than something like OCD, because football dude kneeling was a political statement against police brutality. As much as we all wish the world was more sane than that, it isn't.
Yeah, I get that. I do think that the way this particular word features in one particular type of propaganda structure makes it worthwhile to call out at length and talk about.
Worth talking about in academia. Not worth talking about at length when communicating with normies or 99% of the real world.
Yeah, what could go wrong if we let propaganda, wild misunderstandings and distortions of reality, start to impact the public consciousness and affect people's decisions or voting decisions or whatever?
I literally can't think of a single downside.
When you said that football guy kneeling wasn't political, I started to seriously question what your motives are. He literally knelt, during the national anthem, in a political protest against police brutality. Politics isn't capitol hill bullshit. I'm fairly certain that you don't have a deep enough understanding about politics to come in here and be the arbiter of what is and isn't political.
While I understand the sentiment of your statement, and I think it was well intentioned, I think you're wrong
Someone else said it I think better than I could: Colin Kaepernick’s protest was not political, it was ethical.
You and I can disagree about the precise definition of “political” and whether it includes non-partisan activism that is dealing with pure issues of right and wrong. It is fine either way, I was just saying how I see the definition. I led off though by identifying explicitly political actions which are not “political,” by the propaganda definition. Surely we can agree that the “political” definition that doesn’t include those things is a bunch of shit.
It was an ethical statement against somethinf that could and should be fixed with policy. Something that is enforced with law. It IS political no matter how much you want to pretend it isn't.