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[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 72 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This appears to be a direct consequence of a recent settlement with the US Federal Trade Commission (FTC), which had charged HoYoverse with deceiving minors into spending for their loot boxes. The Chinese developer was subsequently banned from selling them to users under 16 without a parent's express consent, paid a $20 million fine to the FTC, and was also subject to the following stipulations:

  • Prohibited from selling loot boxes using virtual currency without providing an option for consumers to purchase them directly with real money;
  • Prohibited from misrepresenting loot box odds, prices and features;
  • Required to disclose loot box odds and exchange rates for multi-tiered virtual currency;
  • Required to delete any personal information previously collected from children under 13 unless they obtain parental consent to retain such data; and
  • Required to comply with COPPA, including its notice and consent requirements.

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[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand. For spending money one requires banking/card information. How children will get their guardian's banking details without their consent?

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Have you paid for things on mobile in-app? The operating system stores your info behind a password (or biometric) because adults (non-gambling as well) also hate having to memorize 16 digits flawlessly every time they needed to make payments.

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I've refused to move my payment from password to biometrics purely because I'll spend more if I don't have to type out my 22 character password. A few times I've gone to buy something and seen the password field pop up and just like.. uhh cbf.

And then saved like $30.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Some ancient internet slang you've got there.

absorbs

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You've made me reread my comment multiple times and I still don't know what the ancient slang is. God I'm not even 30 and I'm already being made feel old lmao

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

well i can't be fucked to point it out!

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 hours ago

Didn't know that was ancient, I see it used a lot among... I guess other almost 30 year olds.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

But the adults, they weren't deceived in any way. Hoyo scammed them fair and square.

Ban the entire business model.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 18 hours ago

No laws against that (lootboxing), yet, and I doubt EA doesn't have their lobbyists against such laws if enacted. It's also something that has existed so long as to become a cornerstone of mobile gaming... well, a cornerstone outside of the stupid Voodoo dot-io kind, anyways. While extremely unethical IMO I wouldn't call it any more deceptive than any regular casino, that is.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The why is rarely argued. The how is always the point of contention. That's why I am wondering what they are asking for age verification.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't understand what you mean. They're clearly requesting ages over 13 and disabling purchases for those under 16.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I am asking how will they verify the age?

EDIT: I think you might be misunderstanding the grammar. I am not asking "what for". "What for" = "why". I am asking "what do they want as a form of age verification".

[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago

Yeah, if the end consequence is creating a giant database of photos of US ID's (and storing which accounts theyre associated with as a nice bonus) then that is, in my opinion, not great.

I understand Discord is already rolling out ID verification in the UK and their solution is to use a 3rd party service (you send them your, they just send discord a "is over 18? YES/NO). Personally I don't think thats much better but it won't be Discord's own liability when they find out call center employees in India or Vietnam are using the images of your ID to sell online or something.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 10 points 23 hours ago