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[–] SCB@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lots of people are opposed to all sorts of legal immigration. Many people actually believe that immigrants can take away jobs from natives if they come over en masse, and then we won't have jobs for people born here

It's dumb but they believe it.

[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am under the impression that the H1-B visa program is taking away jobs from people born here (aka citizens) because it all you have to do is lie about how you couldn't find a qualified citizen to work, then you can pay someone a fraction of what it would cost to hire a citizen.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The point is that en masse, when immigrants move to America, they create more jobs than they "take," because immigrants are also consumers.

H1B visas might be used to make certain specific roles far more competitive, but you'd be hard pressed to make the argument that the tech sector isn't one of the highest paying sectors period, or that they're short on jobs

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

H1-B isn’t relevant to people working jobs like picking crops, who far outnumber tech workers.

[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And what legal immigrants are doing that work?

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do you assume unskilled labor must be illegally migrating? Migrant workers are the norm and usually come in on a temp visa. Huge numbers of undocumented workers are here because of an expired short work visa for something like summer-fall harvesting.

[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Outside the scope of my point, but fine. Though splitting hairs between illegal entry and illegal remaining is a fools errand. I wasn’t talking about migrant workers. Nor asylum claimers (does anyone NOT claim asylum in this day and age, vs just crossing and hoping to not get caught?).