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Well we can"t know wheter the little brand we choose will be the next Nestle, but this is a thing we shouldn't exactly worry too much about. Following this reasonment, I should kill every person I meet around, because you never know who they are going to be in the future... I think someone who knows the truth and still continues to buy from a certain brand because "it is better", though knowing there exist more ethical alternatives, that person is just a most horrible kind of creature, not even a human being, from a purely philosopical and psychological point of view. Don't take it personal, I don't know what your decisions has been finally.
Choosing not to give money to someone you do not know is not quite the same thing as murdering them.
No, my point was if it is cheaper to buy the name brand vs the small business that charges more, ethics is less the question and more about separating the product from the creators, just like I separate the artist from the art. There are terrible celebrities who have made good music, what changes about the music, what changes about the product, your knowledge of it. But the product itself is still as it was, your perception of [the creator] is just different. Would you stop paying for recycled plastic if you knew it was once someone's trash. Ethics is about treating people better. I don't sit there and think, at the store, let me see who I can support today. No, I buy my groceries like a normal person and look for the deal. I am trying to save money. But that being said, although I still bought fair life, I bought it less after knowing that fact, it still influenced my decision and it was a little more expensive, I liked the taste. But coming down on people for what they support is just as wrong as supporting the thing itself.
If an artist is an evil asshole, I don't support them anymore. I may still think their art is good, but I don't buy from them, because I don't want to support them financially and I also don't want to spread their twisted message and normalize their behaviour. I don't want to be connected with their evilness in any way. So separating art from the artist is possible for me only in some cases of artists that are long dead and that I think can do no more harm.
I agree with your point. it depends on what they did not what they support. I could care less what they support. If they did something that was horrible that is a different story. If a music artist committed a major crime, I wouldn't support them, but if they just support something I don't agree with, I still might support them knowing I like the music.
This is different for basic needs such as in corporations and needing cheap food such as Nestle which owns so many brands. I support many local and small businesses, I support many small artists.
It all depends on which priority is relied upon and in what circumstance. Is it taste or is it morality. Morality should be first and foremost but it depends on the severity of the behavior. I don't care if an artist lied to get out of a parking ticket but if they lied to get out of a DUI where they could have hurt someone or actually hurt someone, it is a different story. There are levels of "wrong". It isn't black and white, all or nothing thinking. There has to be a gray area to be fair.