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Mark my words: they will put Kamala 2.0. or Gavin in the race for president instead of AOC or any other progressive.
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Every time a progressive candidate has run in a primary they lost. The American public is one Facebook ad away from voting for a face eating Leopard. If they really wanted universal Healthcare they would have voted it by now. Voters failed, the dems run with the candidate that had the most chances of winning. And then the voters failed again. Twice.
When a progressive candidate runs in a primary, the party itself sabotages them. The party leadership and party-favored candidates lie about the policies. The party prioritizes centrists with their funding.
In part, yes. I am arguing that you can't ignore the fact that the democratic party itself paid for that Facebook ad.
My point is that there's no amount of ads that would make people in Europe vote against universal Healthcare. In the US it seems that people are so ignorant that ad budget determines election outcomes. People don't really want progressive policies, they are content with bread and circus.
That's an extremely flawed take. Europeans wouldn't vote against universal healthcare because Europe has experienced universal healthcare for decades. It spread throughout Europe in an extremely transformative time - while rebuilding from the destruction of WWII.
Americans are far more isolated than Europeans in many ways, and that also prevents us from truly understanding these kinds of issues. You can visit another country like we visit another state. This lets you experience so much more diversity of ideas than America gets.
Americans are fed lies by everyone around them because the lies let those in power keep power and make more money. We've been slowly drained of our ability to flourish. We spend an increasing amount of effort just surviving. We're stressed and tired of the political turmoil, which lets politicians further strip us of our power.
I won't deny that there are stupid, racist, willfully ignorant people here. I just don't blame them for all of their ignorance. In order to learn, you need to be given the resources and opportunity to do so. Those in power here have worked very hard and spent a lot of money trying to prevent them from getting those things and feeding them lies about an alternate reality that maintains the status quo or further empowers the ruling class.
I don't understand why it's a flawed take, I don't disagree with anything you have written, we pretty much are saying the same thing.
There is a difference between being "content with bread and circus" and being deliberately psychologically overwhelmed and subjected to propaganda for generations. I have no illusions that, as victims, we need to be saved. We must save ourselves. Still, I think that compassion is required. Telling people they are too stupid and impotent to stand up for themselves will just make them defensive.
If you are in Europe and just want to feel better about yourself then have at it. Just don't forget that wannabe Nazis are making a come back there too, and if powerful people in the US can get rich with this strategy you might be next.
I don't see much difference, they are effect and cause.
It's victim blaming. In cases of domestic violence do you blame the abuser for abusing or the abused for not finding a way out? Do you congratulate the person not dealing with that situation for being smart enough to see that the abused should know better?
There is a difference between complacency and subjugation. We can agree to disagree.
If the abused insists the abuser takes them to an abandoned cabin in the woods where no one can hear them scream, twice, I will start blaming them for their situation.
The American public had the option of Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton or Kamala Harris and chose trump twice. Fucking half the world over in the process. My sympathy ended in 2024.
Bad analogy, but we can agree to disagree.
obama really broke the minds of conservatives, couldnt accept a half-black, muslim as a president.
Conservatives don't participate in democrat primaries, do they?
But he is a Christian?