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I find this an issue when I hear people discuss this point. In the previous US election you had two candidates who were effectively capable of taking the spot. Both of them were Pro-Israel because US interests abroad have always been genocide apathetic in the face of economic gains. So you were not voting for Israel / Palistine. You were voting for which regime you would have an easier time to pressure into Palistinian support and which one could be compelled to do the least amount of damage in the meantime.
If you chose abstention then yeah, people are gunna be angry because we're all fucking scared.
Abstention from voting as a protest measure has never worked but besides all that - It is too late now. Now instead of having space to fight against genocide abroad there's not much space because now Americans have to direct their energies to stopping everything else from going to shit. You won't be able to fight at all if this regime gets its way. It is time to move on and deal with the problems American's collective choices have wrought not defend the good intentions that got us here.
Speaking of abstention from voting. I've lost count of how many non-voters have told me that "not voting is not inaction". Often saying voting is going above and beyond. Saying that protesting is the bare minimum. These children don't understand it's exactly the opposite. You can protest and campaign for days, but if you end up never voting, then you didn't do the bare minimum and it was all pointless.
I also find it odd that these people always have the exact same talking points and the exact same failed "gotchas". It's almost like they are all watching/listening to some left version of Fox News.
I can understand their feelings of powerlessness in a two party system where both parties suck. Here in Canada the concept of strategic voting has been the norm for at least the past 20 years because people are aware of how shit the first past the post system is and how it forces us into a two party race we don't want but need to compromise on to make progress. We've spent that time trying to make viable third parties and that has worked to pressure the Canadian version of the Democrats to court more leftist politicians for support and minority governments with three parties have caused a steady march towards a better chance at fixing the underlying issue.
But unfortunately that's bred a backlash from people who think very much like Republicans. It was very rough watching Americans fall into a trap we Canadians have been stepping strategically around for so long.
And by not voting or voting third-party, you and 90 million (non-voters) and 3 million (third-party) others have collectively decided authoritarianism was worth a try. At least my candidate was talking about peace talks and can be peacefully protested. Harris on Ceasefire
Good job, but we all lost.
Violent fucker exposes his violence for the world to see.
Violent doesn't mean dangerous. Just means violent. A cat is violent. A cat is not dangerous.
Personally, I voted for the lesser of two evils in Harris. But now that it's over I cannot blame anyone who couldn't bring themselves to debase their morals for their own personal salvation.
What I find so fucking frustrating is that now the Dems have been shown they cannot stand on genocide and still win and instead of that legendary pressure your talking about, instead we get people blaming Dems for being too woke and attacking anti genocide folks for not playing ball.
AT THE END OF THE FUCKING DAY, THE ONES COMMITTING GENOCIDE ARE TO BLAME. PERIOD. END OF STORY.
Everyone is blaming the Dems for being everything. For pandering to the left or to the middle or to their courting of Republican voters... It's worthless effort. The Democrat playbook has been to play by the rules which systemically support the crony capitalism status quo. The only benefit of them is that they play by the rules which means if you pressure them enough to change the rules they can be manipulated.
Realistically speaking voting them in was one point on a checklist of multiple things that needed to happen to progress and as long as the rest of the checklist is happening then it's an ethical win. It's not a matter of "debasing one's morals" so long as you are doing the other things on the list. This idea of cooing over people's reluctance to hold one's nose and swallow the nasty pill is one I truly believe people need to get over. People should learn from their mistakes so they don't repeat them and the pat on the head with the "You only did what you thought was right" routine is in the end not a kindness. People need to learn how the levers of power work and what is effective tactics and what are the traps that the system baits to stop people from effectively participating.
Hands need to get dirty to make change happen and not every step is a feelgood exercise in feeling righteous. It's a boring slog of a group project. That feeling of refusal to compromise on values for any reason is the easiest thing in the world to exploit and divide people and we collectively should up the social cost of that action and teach that collectivism has it's costs. No effective movement in the history of mankind has checked every box for every member who propelled it to success. We can all afford to swallow a few nasty pills and bank on the delayed gratification of setting up a future win because the alternative is violence which doesn't have historically great outcomes... And yes that sometimes means somebody you don't like gets some kickback out of it.
Inaction by deadlock of a bunch of actors refusing to properly collaborate unless their demands are met are enemies of making change. It's just really hard to chisel past he messaging that they are not actually a noble group because so often we're taught that absolute rigidity of every stage of praxis is the virtue by which change is made. The people who sowed that narrative were knowingly or not imparting weakness. We don't need paragons or heroes we need people who can take tactical advantage of the natural cupidity of the powers that be and be willing to shake with one hand and hold a knife in the other.