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I don't think this is bad advice. However I don't think that it should be limited to just men.
Also I think the group should align politically and be able to support each other in solidarity. They could also use meeting time to plan resistance to fascist regimes.
However there are quite a few people (I am mostly thinking of men I know) that tend to isolate themselves from friends when they need help the most or once they get into a romantic relationship. This is probably not just a men's issue however.
Cut it off after the first 2 points and it sounds ideal.
A bunch of 4-5 guy friends who are open to talk about anything with the motivation being to get a better understanding.......where do I sign up?
Create the group chat and send an inv
Here's a telegram group I've just made:
https://t.me/+3a653HYGjSc5YWU8
Could go for Discord if there's more interest in that.
I don't have Telegram and I'm in the process of abandoning Discord 🤪
Telegram requires a phone number...? Bah
Create the group chat and send an inv
Signal? Matrix?
I've been wanting to try Revolt. Thoughts?
I don't care. Apps are easily installed. If it's not a platform that's got a strong userbase then people don't take it up and it'll end up being just a chat between the 2 of us.
Yeah, you're right. I'm not the kind of person who is good at putting these things together and tbh I'm not good at participating in them either.
I habitually self-isolate.
I think it's best if people get along well with each other despite possible conflicting political views.
If I have to explain to anyone that genocide is wrong and that human rights are good. Or if I find someone votes to promote genocide or reduce human rights. Then they are not my friend.
I might try to talk in good faith to them, I might attempt to negotiate with them, i might even exchange pleasantries with them. But they will never have my full confidence.
I do not have to "get along" with a fascist.
"Conflicting political views" doesn't necessarily mean "fascist". I don't understand why this topic always causes such misunderstandings. This is something I also noticed when I made a thread on the Fediverse community asking about possible advantages or disadvantages about the mostly limited range of views on Lemmy. Some users replied in a similar fashion. Maybe it's just a deliberate exaggeration, i don't know.
If you haven't noticed the USA is in the middle of a fascist auto-coup.
So it's not exaggeration. I've had to cut ties with members of my family. Because they believe some people are sub humans that don't deserve rights or that regions of the globe should be purged.
Politics usually aren't as polarised as in the USA
I don't have any first hand experience outside of the USA. But from global news it sounds like this is a global trend in places like germany, France, Italy, most of south america, Africa, and Asia too.
Maybe I should say that you should align with friends based on your moral principles rather than politics.
That's better yes. Some of my closest friends are politically very different from me, but in the end we mostly do align morally.
It's because that language is specifically what fascists are hiding behind, right this minute. It goes right along as the evolution of the 'you're being intolerant of my intolerance!'
Full agreement but I will say as a syndicalist it's been good for me to be friends with progressive liberals and some more authoritarian and central planning communists. We all want the same thing: a better society that's less oppressive and fairer. We each can help each other see flaws in our ideas and figure out how to advance things.
Fascism should be always off the table. But single party approaches are extremely self destructive
It's not a question of isolating, it's because people only have a limited amount of time and energy and we're all forced to prioritize. Once you factor in romantic relationships, family and work/business many of us don't have much time left for regular meetings with friends.
Not to diminish your position however, I think the problem you are describing is caused by having a lack of a social safety net, not a reason to cut free from one.
Humans are a social animals, and we are more likely to thrive as a community than as rugged individuals.
Do, uh... Do i know you?
No, he's isolated right now.