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[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 95 points 1 week ago (38 children)

I'm still flabbergasted we've arrived at games costing 100€ now. Not some collector's edition, just the normal game. On a console that'll set you back 500€ on its own, not to mention the service subscriptions. Even the god damn next-gen improvements for existing games supported through backwards compat now cost a 2-digit sum. What's next, subscriptions for device features (which you already paid big money for) to work like it's a freaking BMW? It's just utter insanity, and people are still paying for all that shit.

[–] Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

oh boy, do I have news for you! The Nintendo Switch 2 has a C-Button on its controller which opens their new feature "Game Chat" for which a Nintendo Switch Online subscription is necessary. This means there is now a dedicated button on the controller, which will open a popup that tells you to buy their subscription!

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

And it definitely isn't going to get accidentally pressed at the worst possible moment, interrupting your gameplay and likely making you lose! Especially in an online game!

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Those backwards compat costs ain't optional either. Either payup (for each game) for super HD or don't play your existing games at all.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There's a difference between switch 2 edition (upgraded versions) and original switch 1 versions. It can run both, you don't need the upgrade (unless you want the newer features).

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Do the switch 1 titles run in native (e.g. not upscaling) 1080p without paying more since that should just be a simple render change?

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Games that ran at 1080p in docked mode should be able to do that on Switch 2, presumably the console could be smart enough to run the game at that resolution even in portable mode.

Otherwise, that definitely depends on the game engine and game programming. Not every game can handle arbitrary resolution changes.

[–] Chrobin@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago

Some games will be getting free updates for that, yes.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Uh do you have a source on that? Because both have a different architecture.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's all ARM with hardware from the same OEM.

Yes there's a lot of big differences, but Nintendo certainly demanded backwards compatibility from nVidia, so any major CPU and GPU instructions which games are dependent on are certainly either still implemented or emulated properly.

https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/transfer-guide/compatible-games/

They're still in the testing process for compatibility. Any change can break assumptions the developer made, even if it's just tiny, so some games might need patches, but so far that's very few games.

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[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Almost all Switch games are natively compatible with the Switch 2. Stop spreading fake info, it does not help making whatever case you're trying to make.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah, bad wording on my side. I meant they do not need upgrade packs.

I guess they created some internal translation layer (comparable to the Wine project?) to run the games.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where is your source? And no they are not natively compatible. The systems have different architectures!

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

are you serious??? what the fuck

[–] qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For me, they're the same price they've always been 🏴‍☠️.

[–] Transtronaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And on top of all that, patent trolling to hamstring any competition. I'm done encouraging their nonsense with my money.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 week ago

Remember their attempt at patenting relative motion? Absolutely absurd…

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's next, subscriptions for device features (which you already paid big money for) to work like it's a freaking BMW?

I mean, yes, they already announced that in the direct. The new GameChat built-in-discord thingy is only free until next March, at which point you'll need a subscription to continue using it

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I mean the switch already had that with cloud saves and multi-player locked behind a subscription.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

They will keep doing it as long as people keep buying it.

Having a lot of fun on games that cost a tiny fraction of that. I think Isonzo is the most expensive I bought in the past few years and its £40, got it in 2022.

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