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What's missing from Lemmy that would make it unattractive to the average user? Remember the majority of users don't post, comment or otherwise interact with the platform beyond voting.
For those that may only vote and otherwise lurk, there's a decent amount.
The inability to create multi-communities/reddits (or feeds as Piefed calls them), the absence of post-folding/deduplication for when someone posts the same article to multiple communities (sometimes similar, sometimes distinct), the absence of keyword filtering to automatically filter out stuff from local/all feeds one's uninterested in, and these are just a few from the top of my head for those that mostly lurk.
Keyword filtering is about to be merged into Lemmy. Other features will also be added over time.
Will there be a release with that feature before Lemmy 1.0, or will it be delivered with Lemmy 1.0?
It could be backported, but there are now significant changes between the 0.19 and development branches, so it would take some work.
Fair point, but mobile apps and inertia seem to outweigh those additional features
If you use a mobile app then whether your account is on Lemmy or PieFed makes no difference - most of your experience will be determined by which app you choose.
Indeed, but at the moment only Interstellar has alpha support for Piefed.
Once the Thunder for is released, and Voyager, Arctic, Summit etc start to support Piefed, then it will be the case.
I don't think it's always easy to pinpoint UX issues and user friction. Sometimes these things just don't stick with mainstream users. I say it's worth a try to see which platform the average Reddit user will prefer.
But if you're gonna use from a phone, Lemmy's selection of mobile apps is unbeatable.
Fair point. It probably hard to see these things when you've been in the thick of Lemmy for as long as most of us here have. It's easy to dismiss not liking lemmy-ui because alternative frontends exist (written from Photon), but does that matter when the overwhelming majority of instances use it as their landing page.
As I said, it has a lot more polish. Its easier to discover communities, and it has feeds.
Two questions for you, I'm genuinely curious, I hope they don't come up as agressive
This community is much bigger? He's asking a question so probably wants input from the most people possible.
It is, but there's only one way to make Piefed grow, it's to start getting Piefed communities more active.
Lemmy covers pretty much all the topics the current Threadiverse is interested in, so at some point posters have to accept to post to smaller communities.
I'm not saying everyone has to do it, but as OP states that Piefed is more polished, I was surprised
Does it really matter when you can access the same content from Piefed? It's one of fedi's great strengths that different experiences can be tailored on the same platform.
Yep! We should probably move some comms to piefed, so that .world doesn't control too much, but not to piefed specifically.
There's also three Fediverse comms (here, ml and zip) like do we really need another one?
4 days delay with aussie.zone https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40460535
Power tripping admins https://feddit.nl/post/16246531
Single mod who didn't want to create a meta posts to ask for more mods.
I studied the situation before starting to post to !fediverse@piefed.social
Has world really not enabled parallel sending yet? That feature was made specifically for them.
But the sidebar does say to DM them if you're interested in modding. Not wanting a meta post is weird though.
I just checked the graph, its now 4.26 days.
Every time I had a mod refusing meta posts it lead to power tripping. Better safe than sorry
Even so, .world will eventually enable parallel sending, and even in the meantime aussie.zone only boasts 375 MAUs. I empathize with their plight but it's what, 0.6% of the Lemmy userbase? I don't know that such a miniscule minority is worth bending over backwards for and creating further fragmentation.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for choosing instances other than .world when setting up new comms. They're too big. But while we're still at a point where content amount is the primary concern and we're trying to achieve critical mass I also don't know if endless fragmentation is well advised.
But when? I don't want to openly ask LW admins because the 0.19.9 migration took them a while, but it doesn't seem like it's going to happen any time soon. I've seen someone mentioning that they might be delaying it due to resources issues, but their resource usage is not going to go down any time soon.
It is not only aussie.zone. Reddthat is also hosted in Australia, and then had to add a proxy in Europe to prevent a similar delay: https://reddthat.com/post/37387576/17377718. Lemmy.nz is in a similar case.
Lemmy.blahaj.zone is also Australian IIRC, but not sure where the server is hosted. Reddthat is only 429 MAU, but Blahaj is 1171
LW are hesitant to do major changes because if something goes wrong it disrupts the entire Lemmy ecosystem. It's a direct negative consequence of them growing too big, but once they're in this position I can understand their reservations. I too wish they'd implement upgrades faster but I have no reason to believe they will just refuse to implement an upgrade forever, that's unreasonable to assume.
Lemmy.nz is what, about 100 MAU? And I know a Blåhaj admin is Australian but Fedi Observer has the server listed as based in Finland and hosted in Germany. Don't know if that's wrong though. Are their users also reporting delays?
Why not? I'm not saying to move everything, but a few communities to Piefed could be nice. A few to Mbin too to keep everyone happy.
Thats literally what I said.
Alright, then I misread your comment
It doesn't matter, true. We can see every comments in a crossposted post. But on the other hand Blaze is also right. :)
I told him the same thing about its lemmy repport that i wished something less lemmy centric. :)
With our current situation, it's just that most of the things are going to happen on Lemmy. New app update? it's a Lemmy app. New monthly active user milestone reached? Lemmy is probably the main reason.
Hopefully things will get more balanced over time, but we can't expect a perfect 1/3 split of posts between the three platforms.
Yep but considering your activities, you can tell them more about PieFed and Mbin. It will help reach a more balanced software's use. :)
Didn't I with the Mbin post yesterday?
Yes sorry, it's perfect. :)
This comm is much bigger, and I happened to be on my .ee account at the time.
e: And I've used this account for longer, so I don't want to abandon it.
Probably the main reason why people won't move to Piefed either