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FYI Hex is now federating again and already bringing their best! Stay classy hex as always π
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this post was submitted on 01 Apr 2025
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Get them to ban your account. Then their users will not be able to see your posts or comments, to reply to. Ironically, the best gift they gave me.
EDIT: Goddamnit! They unbanned me just now.
Fair warning: You need to actually be dangerous to their thought bubble to eat a ban. Just insulting them won't suffice, they'll leave that up to make criticism of their position look irate and irrational, what you need to do is to go to asklemmygrad or such and get both up- and downvotes. Make them question.
You might be able to force them to if you threaten to DMCA them for hosting your own copyrighted content. Posts and comments on Lemmy are technically literature which is copyright protected, and while you give your own instance license to host them via their Terms of service, you don't necessarily give the same permission to remote instances like Hexbear.
That fun little loophole with how federation works, you can explicitly request instances exclude you or it can really suck for them. Lemmy should probably have a built-in option for this to exclude yourself in this manner but don't count on the devs to add it unless people start DMCAing Hexbear and ML to "opt-out" of federation with those servers.
CC: @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
I think the idea that's your content will be rehosted by other servers and you give implicit permissions to do so should he part of your tos
Maybe, I guess it all depends on whether they agree on how transferable said license is, and whether courts or even just DMCA enforcers at a host or registar will agree with that (DMCA safe-harbor provisions encourage providers to act preemptively rather than duke it out in court else they risk losing protection against liability).
Obviously one's own server's TOS guarantees they have the license to host their users' content, but it might not be as clear for other federated servers, since they have their own TOS that protects them in that event, but if the user didn't sign up there, they aren't agreeing to them, and they could even reject it and still have their content federated there whether they like it or not. Seems like it could potentially be a dicey grey area if they chose to pursue federation as copyright infringement. Especially if they copyrighted their comments and posts officially.
They were really chomping at the bit to ban me for months, because I constantly criticize "left unity" and deny that anarchists can collab with MLs with any systematic significance. (You should see how mald they got at some of my memes. Talking about 1000+ comment pile on!)
As a result, they kept posting "dunks" about our instance in their subs full of bad faith and hypocrisy, which I felt compelled to defend against, but I stuck to the subject at hand, so they had no excuse to ban me. Eventually they just banned me from one of their dunk comms for "liberalism" and deleted all my defenses of our instance that I had been writing for hours. That injustice triggered my ASD and I called that mod a "hypocritical PoS" in one DM, so they finally had an excuse π .
That's actually an awesome idea. Not having to deal with another childish ML screaming "anarkiddie" when you point out that China isn't communist. Or the breathless "but-but-but someday they will be!!!!! 1!" Because as we all know, those with power love to give it up.
You misunderstand them. For many such campists. China is already perfectly fine.
Oh no I understand it. And campism is 100% the right word for it. 100% childish and lacking in critical thought. Being a pragmatist I tend to rub ideologues the wrong way regardless. But at least some of them you can understand and respect. Campists should not get any.
I do have to ask, if the admins here are banned from Hexbear, why are we (dbzer0) federated with them?
Not an attempt at a gotcha, I'm just curious why we are.
Because I'm not trying to be a BDFL. If people want to defed from hexbear, they can ask for a defed vote.
You are one whether you want it or not though? You canβt just ask everybody what instance decision to take at every step?
It's an Anarchist instance, they try to be as democratic and community driven as possible. Actually this one here is very similar to that, we have !agora@sh.itjust.works where people can have discussions about things like that and mods may post a vote as well.
dbzer0 is an anarchist instance. They try to avoid any heavy-handed stuff (like defederation) unless the community specifically asks for it.
Of course not, but I work within mandates and can be recalled at any time, which is not how dictators for life work
How can you be recalled and keep instance functioning? Who elects another instance overseer and is it fair process?
If you really wanted it to be fair then you would have division of power: 1. Intern technician 2. Press 3. Judiciary system. And last but not least Elected overseer -> you
I can be recalled as an admin, but I remain as a sysadmin. I just took a pledge to respect that vote amd ensure the other admins do so as well. The admins select new admins. The community can recall them at any time as well.
Fair enough!