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I mean, in a way, it's fair. We're not rising up to stop it in massive droves.
While there are valid reasons for why the US struggles with that (size, atomization of population, lack of job protections and jobs tied to healthcare, surveillance state), it's still valid for other nations to see that as capitulation.
Wage slavery and healthcare tied to your job is a hell of a drug, guys.
That’s less of an excuse than it is an explanation.
Right, which is why I advocate for fewer protests and more community organizing so we can care for each other outside of these broken ass systems. People are going to wait until after the last minute to start organizing ways to protect and care for each other, but that's America for you.
Yep. Protests are just being used at this point to root out dissidents. Mutual aid and sabotaging oppressive institutions where possible can be more effective ways for folks to participate in organized resistance without risking life and livelihood.
Exactly! Developing community connections is critical. Finding your community is a bit harder in the age of social media so you need to work at finding local connections.
And despite my job being done easily online I have an RTO mandate and they might let me go just as easily as letting me work from another, less fascist, state.
Can’t have that corporate real estate underutilized
Man I am glad every protester in history has had health care. Could you imagine if there was no health care during the American revolution America would be British.
You’re being comically reductive and naïve, and you know it. Don’t be an asshole.
Nobody wants to be the first person to “go there,” and really protest (beyond waving a few cleverly worded signs on the sidewalk). The first person to take protests to the next level (i.e., throwing fists, rolling cars over, occupying government buildings, confronting masked cops during kidnappings, showing up with arms, whatever) gets mowed down rather quickly.
Ineffective, and it gives the current admin the leverage to bring the hammer down quickly, before an opposition can recoup and really organize.
People are waiting for a critical mass, and “the moment,” when they’re assured that everyone else will turn out en masse at the same time to set shit ablaze, French-protester-style. But nobody knows when “that moment” will be, exactly. Or if it’ll ever come. So, who’s gonna go first?
And who wants to go at all? It’s easy to talk a tough talk when you’re young and you don’t have family depending on you for their survival. Then again, those with children also want their kids to have a country to grow up in that resembles the one we grew up in (or, optimally, far better). So, quite a pickle.
Perhaps “the moment” will never come anyway, and we’ll all just whimper our way into Fascism.
Someone went first. But they might have went too early.
There's a lot more to come. His trial is going to be a circus. His biggest influence on socity is still ahead.
Nope. It's not going to start a movement Americans are to far lazy and comfortable. Also still think they are the best. They well ride that all the way down.
Also the second amendment can be removed now as everyone who said we need it for government protection.... it was all bs.
While its true that the far right has way more gun owners than the left. There are still a fair number of us that are armed. I do think it will be interesting if they try to take back all the guns, like maybe that will be the thing that finally wakes up so of these assholes. Not the super MAGAs that are just drinking in the shit, but I personally know a few people that said the biggest reason the vote Republican is because they are afraid of the left taking their guns
Well, I'm also personally of the opinion that violence being the first answer is a losing proposition in a surveillance enabled police state with the largest and most advance military in the world.
I think it's a much better idea to organize on a national level mutual aid groups, community gardens, community doctors, community mesh-networks not connected to the internet for information sharing, people working outside of capitalism and then when enough of a support network is built, going all-in on a general strike. Violence will still happen anyway, but take the time to prepare parallel systems and starting from a defensive position instead of offensive is the smarter move.
I think with the massive boot of law enforcement, the surveillance tools they have, and the military backing them, starting by fighting is a fools errand that will be crushed quickly, mostly because there won't be enough logistical planning. I've met enough antifa wannabes who just wanna go out and recklessly shoot shit to understand that it's not organize enough.
We need to be organized at a community level to care for each other so people can feel supported enough to stand with each other.
The irony of anarchism is it requires more organizing to be effective and not descend into chaos. If you discard lame ass cookie cutter institutions you are always working on ad hoc replacements in the moment.
This is not a weakness, just another social chore.
Exactly.
We’ve all watched the kids die too while the USA culturally adopted an armed populace in defence of a rogue government and risks to freedom.
Yep and where are they now?
We're not? What are all the protests ( growing in size) for then?
Protests /= violent resistance or building parallel systems so we can all go on general strike for a month.
General strike is our non-violent option, and violence is our, well, violent option. I'd prefer the former but I see a lot more protesting and a lot less organizing of community gardens and mutual aid networks.
We're up against a modern-surveillance-enabled police state and the largest military in the world. General strike to break the economy is the better option, imho. That requires organization and planning, not protests.
Protests don't hinder such organization though, and they can connect and embolden people. They're valuable as long as they're not all that gets done.
If push did come to "shove" you'd be less likely to join in if you only ever saw a handful of people protesting. We need to know who's more or less onboard if shit hits the fan.
This is true, I don't mean to impugn the protests, but I have met far more Americans who just want to go out and commit reckless violence instead of doing any real planning... Which is very American, I guess.
It's also why I think we will fail miserably, because we've got too many "heroes" who don't know what real heroism is.