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Tuta is a end-to-end-encryption mail and calendar provider. They recently wrote a good blog-post about changing to european services.

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[โ€“] Flamekebab@piefed.social 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

SMTP/IMAP

Is this not a deal breaker for, like, everyone?

[โ€“] adavis@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Web apps.

For reference I work for a competing mail provider and the majority of our users don't use SMTP or IMAP, instead exclusively using the web app.

[โ€“] Chastity2323@midwest.social 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

or the app app lol. Tuta has apps on all platforms.

[โ€“] pjusk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Personally never had to use either protocol, what's your use case? - genuinely curios.

[โ€“] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Using Thunderbird as opposed to tuta's quite barebones client:

  • delayed messaging
  • message scheduling
  • local backup of mails
  • no email import
  • desktop app failures (happens quite often to me that I just can't log in)

Not to mention other external QoL functionalities like a home assistant tablet being able to display a family calendar and being able to automate based off of events

[โ€“] pjusk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago

Defo some good points here that I had not thought of, am too used to using webclients. Though Tuta does have an mail import feature.

[โ€“] markvandijk@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Tuta's discount is tempting, but I've also seen StartMail doing 50% off lately. Definitely feels like a good time to test a couple out, especially if you care more about UX than just encryption.

[โ€“] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sadly, no calendar on startmail which is a non-starter for getting my family on it.

Seems to be nothing really with mail + calendar + encryption + IMAP from a smaller company.

[โ€“] SeekPie@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Not sure if it's encrypted,b but mailbox.org has email + calendar + I can add it to K-9 and Geary (so I think it does support IMAP?)?

[โ€“] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Nice! I am thinking either mailbox.org or posteo. They have IMAP. They support pgp indeed it seems. One of those might be a winner!

[โ€“] markvandijk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Have you already tested it out?

[โ€“] SeekPie@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

I have been using mailbox's light (1โ‚ฌ/month) tier, which doesn't include the calendar, so I can't really tell you about its quality.

What I can tell you though, is that it has worked great with K-9 and Geary and everyone I have emailed has recieved it and it hasn't gone to any spam folders or such.

[โ€“] Aux@feddit.uk 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

How do you use email without SMTP/IMAP?