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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It is indeed very difficult to type convert 001.jpg example.pdf and ffmpeg -i rock.mp4 rock.avi

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

convert 001.jpg example.pdf and ffmpeg -i rock.mp4 rock.avi

[–] WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Lol, apparently it is hard. You were supposed to enter

convert 001.jpg example.pdf

And

ffmpeg -i rock.mp4 rock.avi

By putting the "and" in the commands you just caused an error lol

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

By putting the "and" in the commands you just caused an error lol

I didn't put the "and" in the commands, I copied and pasted them from the comment above, but thank you for illustrating my point so very well.

[–] WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I didn't put the "and" in the commands, I copied and pasted them from the comment above

Yes you did, but you copy pasted two different commands connected with "and".

The word "and" isn't meant to be typed into the cli. They're stringing together two different lines.

but thank you for illustrating my point so very well.

If your point was that it's easy to copy and paste I'm confused how I helped.

It is easy to copy and paste though. People generally format the commands like I did instead of in the middle of a sentence like OP did where you can make parsing mistakes.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My point is that if I had followed the instructions it wouldn't have worked. Which is what always happens.

[–] WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Right, but I just pointed out to you why it wouldn't work and how to fix it.

So if you had followed my instructions they would have worked.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Would it? I'm not wasting anymore time to figure it out. Is there no point at which I'm allowed to give up? Am I forced to continue trying forever and ever because you want me to?

[–] WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Oh sorry. You're right, you're allowed to give up.

I have 100% confidence that you personally had negative experiences in the past trying to get stuff like this working. Like I fully believe you.

I've just done this before you know? I know what these tools are and how easy they are! I use ffmpeg.

Im also 100% sure that, if you had put that aside the attitude that it would be a time waste and you had just given it an honest try, me or a bunch of different people on this thread would have easily helped you get it working by now.

Maybe it'd take a couple comments back and forth, but weve already expensed that effort arguing. And I know for a fact it would've taken less effort than we've spent so far.

It's okay for you to give up, but you gotta realize how it feels for us to hear you complain, for us to know with certainty we can help you, and not feel a little frustrated when you refuse the help while continuing to complain.

Everytime you keep popping up in the thread complaining about this non existent problem it just hurts cause it's so easily solvable.

But you're right, no matter how easy this is I can't force you to try. So, cheers!

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago

okay, now what?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

TYPE IT WHERE!? WHAT DO I DO WITH THIS INFORMATION!? How are you so completely unaware of how non-sensical this information is?

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The terminal? Your post history suggests you are quite familiar with Linux. But I agree that those who are most prone to use random file conversion sites because they need something as PDF for work will be very confused by those instructions.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I am familiar with Linux but I avoid it whenever possible. I dailyed it for a couple of years but I've unfortunately moved on to Mac due to their deep dependency on terminal. If I have a problem and go and look up support, 99% of the time the advice is to open the terminal and start running commands, which is almost never the case for Windows or Mac. I've been using a Mac for about a year and I don't even know where the terminal is. Even where there's a perfectly suitable GUI solution, they'll send you into the terminal anyway. Linux is made by and for devs and it is and will remain that way until the mentality of it's creators change. And I am not a dev.

I can follow instructions. The problem is #1 I'm told "don't type commands you don't understand" and #2 no one ever explains what any of these commands do, so I never learn anything, and #3 the commands don't work, and they return a generic error with zero diagnostic information, or sometimes just nothing at all happens. I don't have time for that. I just want something that works.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I understand that you may not know the commands you are told by strangers, but many of these are tools are meant for professionals. ffmpeg, for example, is used by many industries and companies worth millions of dollars to handle production workloads. They often have documentation to tell you what they do, though

There's a manual for ffmpeg for example: https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg.html

Here's imgemagick's documentation: https://imagemagick.org/script/magick.php

Obviously you won't understand any of that because the command line doesn't work for you, but for those of us who do understand it and can use it, it's very informative.

I think handbrake is a gui wrapper on top of ffmpeg, but I never used it, I just memorized the ffmpeg commands and can type so much faster than i can click.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

these are tools are meant for professionals...these are often not consumer-level software

Then stop recommending them to random people.

There's a manual

How many times do I need to repeat "I don't have time for this" before you people will stop pestering me with this?

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Im recommending them to anyone who wants free software and is willing to invest their time into understanding how to do things for free and without concern over their data. If you aren't willing to invest the necessary time it isn't for you and that's why I said it. It's okay if these don't work for you. That's valid. But it does, in fact, work for many others who are not you.

I mentioned the manual because you claimed you didn't know what the commands do. If you read and take the time to learn the manual like you said you can do, you will, in fact, understand how the commands work. Additionally, this is public forum, my post may have been a reply to you but I understand other people may read my comment. Other people may have your frustrations but are not aware of the manuals that tell them exactly how the commands work. It only takes a bit of elbow grease, perhaps people other than you are willing to apply it?

I'm not sure if you saw it, but I did mention a gui application for converting files. I admit, I don't use it, but many people also save a lot of money using it, so it might be helpful. I have no idea if it's useful for your needs though.

Here's "ffmpeg in 100 seconds" https://youtu.be/26Mayv5JPz0

Here's a video on ffmpeg and imagemagick: https://youtu.be/sKBM4M-kuCg

Additionally, you can just learn how to read man pages: https://itsfoss.com/linux-man-page-guide/

There's a neat little guide that'll help you learn how to read documentation.

Once you've read through that let me know what confuses you about documentation.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago

Im recommending them to anyone who wants free software and is willing to invest their time into understanding how to do things for free and without concern over their data.

That's just "random people" with more words.

If you read and take the time to learn

There's a neat little guide

I keep telling you I don't have time for a new career and you keep replying to me with more reference materials. I appreciate the effort but it's misplaced. I've lost too many days trying to do things that people with no self-awareness (which may or may not be you, I don't know) assure me is "easy". I'm done. I'm not trying anymore. If a simple intuitive software is not available then I will just not do it.