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All centrists are basically leftists.
most centrist are secretly fascists, they just don't have the balls to say it outright like right wingers
I wouldn't go that far. Centrists, and most right wingers actually, aren't fascist by default. They provide a fertile ground for fascism and will likely support it once it takes hold, but most of them aren't ideologically committed to establishing an ethnostate. I mean screw them anyway; they do support protecting the capitalist aristocracy (I'm not kidding this is a central tenet of conservatism), but let's not use the word where it doesn't belong.
found a fascist
Sorry, but you're just uneducated on the subject.
Claims the clown spouting "Hitler was a socialist". xD
Also the clown whose name is literally "proletarians must suffer"
Any reason to suggest he wasn't socialist?
He persecuted socialists (basically the first people sent to concentration camps) and had capitalist policies? Any reason to suggest he was fond of Marx?
But Mr (assumed) "proletarians_must_suffer" probably thinks that "socialism is when the state does stuff".
Go bother someone else in some ancap forum, where you belong.
Are bolsheviks socialist? Bc they also persecuted socialists, communists, anarchists, etc, etc.
He literally limited the profitability of companies to 6%.
He's non-marxist socialist. Not all socialist are Marxists. Btw, fascists are Marxists. They're what you call "revisionists".
I'm not an ancap.
No. They were state-capitalists.
You agree that companies made profits. That's a capitalist policy.
I didn't say whether or not he was a Marxist. All socialists apply Marxist analysis at least partially. Even Bakunin agreed with Marx's theory.
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You're enough of an ancap for me to care how you define yourself. You've proven enough how little of political/historical understanding you have.
Ok.
Considering what was before, it was a gradual step towards socialism. Nazi Germany existed for like 30 years. Not everything can be implemented immediately.
Uhuh. Is Charles Fourier socialist?
What is that even supposed to mean?
Ah, yes. And Hitler clearly stated that he was a socialist... somewhere. You have to read between the lines of "Mein Kampf", where he clearly states that he's right wing. And all the companies who profited immensly from all that slave labour where juuuust about to be socialised. /s
Got any proper points, or are you just gonna "umm actually" me to death?
You're a weirdo who deserves to be ridiculed for having such a stupid worldview.
I didn't say it. Although he did.
Where?
Btw are bolsheviks communists? Bc they clearly stated they are. No need to even read between the lines.
And what's the relation between capitalism and slavery?
The point is that socialists can be socialists without applying Marx works in any way.
What worldview? What is my worldview?
Where? Here, maybe, where he ridicules the people who think the Nazis were socialists?
In this chapter, for example
They stated that as their goal. The Nazis stated a Reich enuring 1000 years as their goal. Did those succeed?
They're compatible.
Name one socialist that came after Marx that doesn't agree with him in some manner or the other.
Please, enlighten me. I could do with a bit of absurd fantasy worldbuilding.
So unless someone achieves communism, they're not a communist? Btw, since 3rd Reich didn't follow all nazi tenants and didn't achieve all nazi goals, maybe they weren't nazis?
Hitler
Sorry, but you've set up this perfect punchline yourself.
Oh, so you don't know what my views are, but have already concluded they're absurd. Well, jokes on you, I'm an anarcho communist (no)
Sure you didn't read that in a dream?
Why did you ask whether or not the bolsheviki were communists, exactly?
Circular logic as an "argument", then. Gotcha.
You've given enough hints (you consider yourself far right than call the Nazis far left), so I took a guess. I was open to reach another conclusion...
... But clearly, you're afraid of further ridicule.
this bait sucks try harder
Have you noticed an influx in trolls recently or am I imagining it?
Gonna happen every time Reddit fucks up and triggers another batch of exiles.
I think I forgot how much I hate reddit culture. It's just so needlessly abrasive.
Yeah, this leftist can't be fooled
This is only true when considered on a different scale. In the United States where left and right are both still on the right, absolutely not. In a country when both sides lean more left, maybe.
I disagree. Communism won the propaganda war in 20th century, and now what we consider left and right are all on the left side. US is slightly righter than Europe but still left from center.