Easy. You take the world as it is right now...and then remove the evil things. Evil is a metaphysical concept. We often use analogies of light and dark, but it doesn't literally work that way.

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 1 points 5 hours ago

You want stepford wives. I don't and you don't get to choose that for me.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AK0Q6wRtsyU

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then how does the concept of life as a test work when humans can do no evil?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

First, you'll note that I started this conversation by conceding free will and concentrating my discussion of evil on evils that are not performed by humans, but by the planet itself, or by fundamental biology.

But as for "the concept of life as a test"...why is something supposedly omniscient performing a test? It should already know the result of said test, thus making the test itself irrelevant. That's what omniscience is.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Evil existing is necessary for a test in good and evil. Whether done by humans or natural causes.

Angels were created as perfect servants who obey all commands without free will. Humans were created as the opposite. Those who have free will to perform both good and evil.

It should already know the result of said test, thus making the test itself irrelevant. That’s what omniscience is.

An all-powerful entity is not bound by paradoxes. If that was the case it would end at the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnipotence_paradox which is even more extreme than the free-will paradox for which some explanations can be thought of.

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 1 points 5 hours ago

Angels were created as perfect servants who obey all commands without free will

Then why did Lucifer fall? You have to have the texts left out.

Angels were created of fire (stars) passion. Man of earth, matter. Yhwh told the angels to bow and worship man, they refused, thinking they were better (double slit experiment). And we're still hung up on this lesson. We haven't figured out how to do breathairisnism yet. And when we do, we will have to figure out how to breathe a substance that doesn't contain microbes. Or you know, return to being stars.

"We are stardust, we are golden, we are billion year old carbon, and we've got to get ourselves back to the garden."