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[–] oo1@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Be careful what you wish for.
Some other extreme right-wing nutjob was imprisoned after a failed 'coup' about 100 years ago.

That gave him a whole load of martyr rhetoric to play off.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So Trump shouldn't face consequences? He should be allowed to just get away with it to stop him becoming a martyr?

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't agree with the guy who posted that but I kind of think the US government does. I think Trumps gonna get a sweetheart plea deal because theyre either afraid of his supporters or one of his supporters.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't they have to negotiate the plea deal with Smith? Because I don't think he'd play ball on that.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That and you don't offer a plea deal on a slam dunk case. The federal government does not often lose when it brings charges. The info in that indictment should be enough, but if that's the high level of what they have, the evidence presented in court will be wild.

[–] kill_dash_nine@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People need to be held accountable for their actions. Right now, politicians and those in powerful positions, such as CEOs of the biggest companies, are given way too much power and influence with a complete lack being held responsible when shit hits the fan. Worst case for most of them is that they but their way out of their problems. It’s pathetic and it shows how the system that was supposed to prevent this shit is broken.

[–] oo1@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

whoa, i just said be careful, not let him off scott free.

but sometimes the social consequences of a legal sytem designed for normal people can become inflammatory when cult leaders get involved. (citation deliberatly withheld - likely apocryphal anyway

all i mean is, if you can find a way to achieve what you want from the punishment, but minimize or otherwise control those risks , it'd be a good idea.

[–] Syndic@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That gave him a whole load of martyr rhetoric to play off.

Only because they let him off easy. He should never have been let anywhere near a political position after his coup attempt. Same for Trump!

[–] oo1@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

true, i dont know anyting about the USA politics.
Would the criminal conviction block politcal office for life?

I'd advise against crucifiction though.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

At his age going to prison is very likely a lifetime sentence.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah but he literate and wrote a book with ideas in it (albeit flawed).

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump has never written a book. He paid other people to write books and slap his name on the cover. I doubt he’s even read the books he claims to have written.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I was referring to Hitler being literate and having written a book.

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He didn't write shit, he dictated it to Hess. And it is a rambling mess.

If Trump decided to dictate a book to Guilani in jail it would probably have a lot in common with Mein Kampf.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You got me, I've never read it or even recall any excerpts from it, I just assume that he must have been more intelligent than Trump.

[–] mister_flibble@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hitler was a hell of a lot younger than Trump though. The shaved orange orangutan is running out of runway for that kind of shit. Hell, as are a lot of his supporters for that matter.

[–] oo1@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

tbf - i dont think it was really youth he needed, it was probably as much the combination of lingering ww1 debt and the wall st crash .

Hopefully theres been stock market crashes recently that people are a bit more resilient and dont get so suggestible.