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[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 66 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

For what it’s worth, you can’t tell people their paychecks are getting bigger when they aren’t. Biden presided over a “great economy” but wages stagnated and buying power decreased. Trump is going to Strangelove-ride this economy into a pit so deep it’ll be hard to convince people that everything is roses.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It'll work for a while on some people, but yeah, eventually it'll come crashing all down, especially if companies start using the fake figures into their future planning.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure this is also why they want to annex Canada, Greenland, and Panama (maybe Mexico if they think they can get away with it). It's the exact same strategy the Nazis used, and I'm not invoking that lightly: when their economy was absolute dogshit, the Nazis made it look WAY better by A) going to a war footing and B) invading other countries and stealing everything that wasn't nailed down (then stealing everything else, including the nails.)

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I still don’t believe it’s anything more than a distraction from more important issues, although maybe I’m naive.

I’m more worried about things like an article I just read where they disbanded a group dedicated to ensuring statistics are as accurate as possible, while also redefining how GDP is measured so they can hide the impact of government cuts on the economy

Invading Canada doesn’t seem like it can be real. Manipulating facts and newspeak to lie to the population is all too real and all too much an enabler for pretty much everything else. The first thing a tyrant needs to do is control what the populace thinks it knows

It is distraction. Russia doesn't gain anything from getting Moscow burned to the ground. The number of U.S. citizens that want to shoot Canadian citizens is low. And the only way that 31 countries (NATO) don't attack the U.S. in defense of Canada is if they think Russia is a big enough threat to keep them from coming. Ukraine has proved Russia is not. Russia would lose all the ground gained in Ukraine soon as Poland and Germany started air raids on Russia. Poland would have no issue burning Moscow to the ground without ever setting boots in Russia. There is no benefits to any of it. The only benefit is to Trump where he would be able to seize war time powers. In the mean time more than half of America would be livid with the U.S. government getting us sucked into WW3 and be trying to not only oust the current government but actively sabotaging factories making drones or any wartime gear. 2/3s of this country would likely WANT us to lose the war so we could fix our government and get back to relative peace. Shit, NYC itself would likely blow up the Statue of Liberty.

Nothing good would come from WW3, and that's what it would bring.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

TBF Trump did exactly this in his first term when he changed the withholding to make people think their taxes went down, when in reality they ended up paying the same or more when they filed.

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Very true, but that only works on a small scale for a specific thing. This economy is about to crush almost all of us. There will be no denying it.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There will be no denying it.

LOL... Challenge accepted (says the Trump supporters).

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yet this is all so politically driven.

For example, there were many minimum wage hikes during Biden’s term, lifting the lowest wages. At the state level. In blue states. Politicians in the states that needed this most blocked both federal increases and those for their own states. How are those politicians not the ones getting the blame?

As another example, legislation signed by Biden resulted in many additional business benefits in factories and trades. This would have created many new jobs, especially in some of the most low wage parts of the country. But not until the factories are built. And political changes where the government won’t follow through with its commitments means many of these will no longer be built. Why isn’t the administration stopping these new jobs getting the blame?

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

A huge difference between the left and the right is that the left respects the citizens and gives them the benefit of the doubt on how much they understand and consider. The right doesn’t overestimate them and accurately reckons and takes full advantage of their reactive, unanalytical character.

[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

And that's why trickle down is always a scam.