this post was submitted on 10 Mar 2025
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
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All posts should follow this basic structure:
- Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
- What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
- Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
- Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
- Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
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- Post only about bans or other sanctions that you have received from a mod or admin.
- Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
- Don’t deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
- Don’t harass mods or brigade comms. Don’t word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
- Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
- You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
- If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
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A terms of service is a legal agreement between a user and the host. The user in this case did not access lemmy.world and is not their user, so cannot be bound by the ToS. The same way you cannot be forced into an optional legal agreement that you haven't read or seen.
There is no question that the lemmy.world admins can ban someone from their site if they wish to, but claiming its for a violation of ToS is completely incorrect. The lemmy.world admin in this case decided to arbitrarily ban someone because they say they're under 18, even though there is no legal consideration for lemmy.world here.
Can they do this? Yes. It's their site. But they are incorrect to refer to their ToS for this ban, because the user is not bound by this.
The action taken was outside of any stated lemmy.world policy on moderation.
Their terms of service state that you must be of a certain age to use their instance. It’s not a sign-able agreement. It’s the terms of their service. It’s their rules. As in… the TERMS of their service. Using their instance is the agreement.
Besides… if they want- they can just ban you for whatever reason they choose. So, whether your nitpicking of the definition of Terms of Service is correct or not, the point remains.
I’ll tell you what though, if you think you have a case… go ahead and offer to represent them in a lawsuit. See how far that flies. But I’m going to guess that there is no legal precedent that states they have a right to post whatever they want wherever they want- regardless of the Terms of Service.
That's just PTB
I am not using their service. I used copy of their community. Holy Shit, lots of user don't know how TOS works.
It's totally wild how many people who don't understand it are trying to weigh in with their incorrect opinion.
I know it's a very specific point this centres around, being that the ToS doesn't apply to you, but it needs debate and discussion so mistakes like this don't happen in the future.
Rhoeri is rather infamous for being wrong but acting smug and like they're right the entire time.
This is just another bulk common L from them if you know them at all.
They also seem to be a conservative troll, why am I not surprised 🙄
Conservative, liberal, same thing in 2025 really. They love Democrats and have defended their policies the entire time I've seen them.
It absolutely is a signable agreement, you agreed to it when you signed up to lemmy.world 🤦♂️ you even have to specifically type that you agree these days, I believe.
And yes, by using the website you agree to it - except (as i and others have to keep pointing out) the user did not use lemmy.worlds website at any point. That isn't how federation works. To suggest it does is just ignorance of the topic.
Yes, we agree that they can ban them for any reason they choose, that's not up for debate, but they cannot apply a clause from their terms of service and specifically cite their terms of service, because it doesn't apply to the remote user.
The largest lemmy instance should be held to account for their actions (as should any lemmy instance). The admin didn't even have to state a reason for the ban, but by saying its the ToS they've invalidated their action. It's not rocket science if you take two minutes to understand how federation and ToS works.
Check their comment history. They post in .world VERY often.
This isn’t up for debate. They violated the rules. They may have a different home instance, but they post in .world. That- according to the rules, violates the ToS of .world.
I don’t get how this isn’t getting through to you, but I honestly don’t care to keep explaining it.
Dude was banned. You’re gong to have to learn how to be okay with that.
No, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how federation works.
The user is on lemm.ee. When they make a post, they're posting to a local copy of the community, and never directly onto the server. Thats not how federation works and so your points are all totally invalid.
At no point does the user ever make contact themselves with that external server. They never physically touch lemmy.world in their actions, everything they do is on lemm.ee, and so lemm.ee's Terms of Service is the one that applies to the user.
As has already been hashed out multiple times, Lemmy.world's ToS is not relevant here and does not apply to an external user.
This is totally up for debate, and you don't understand it. That's fine, learn from people who do know and take it with some humility.
Oh and if you still don't get why its important and how wrong you are - if you were right, then every single post you make is federated to thousands of different fedi servers. Suddenly, you would be legally in contract with all those thousands of servers and their ToS. Imagine if I put in mine that users have to pay a small sum of currency for every post that they make on my server. In your incorrect definition, you would be liable for that just like lemmy.world have applied their ToS against someone who isn't one of their users.
What lemmy.world should do is update their moderation policies/code of conduct/whatever to specifically say that they will ban you if they suspect you are under 18. Its such an easy fix. This never had to be so wrong in the first place.
ROFL….
In other words, "I have no rebuttal"
That's what they default to, yeah. Every time they're in a corner it's lol or lmao.
This you?
#owned #epicstyle 😎👉👉
Some things are just too fucking stupid to entertain. This is one of those things.
The kid broke a rule. Got banned. Cry about it all you want, but the fact remains.
Nah, you were backed into a corner and couldn't come up with a real response. Play it off all you like, but your behaviour is incredibly transparent.
Nah. I get to say what my reaction means. Not you. Cool?
Okay, Cool.
Whatever helps you sleep at night lmao
Autonomy is a pretty big deal to me. Maybe you like people telling you how you think and feel about things, but I’m personally not a big fan of it…
so l, yeah… I sleep better having told people who try to build a straw man out of my reactions to kindly fuck off.
Which is what I did.
Glad to see you admit you don't know what you're talking about about.
When other instance admins who have to be familar with this law interaction disagree with you, you're probably wrong.