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[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 1 day ago (6 children)

"Huge lunch debts"??? WTF is this even? How does the US even function?

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 20 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, like this. This is pretty much where our "prosperity" comes from. We require everyone to be responsible for even the most basic of needs and in return we get to have crazy profit margins that disproportionately benefit the people that would still be embarrassingly rich if they paid for every kid to get a free school lunch.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

We require everyone to be responsible for even the most basic of needs and in return we get to have crazy profit margins that disproportionately benefit the people that would still be embarrassingly rich if they paid for every kid to get a free school lunch.

I just want to clarify something for the record. Again, speaking as a person with 18 years of direct experience on this exact subject. It was literally my job to ensure that the districts I worked for received the maximum in grants and those grants were applied to maximum benefit for students.

The profit margins on school food service is borderline nonexistent. Not even pennies on the dollar. When I left the company I worked for last year, average costs per meal hovered around $2.50 to $3 per meal. The breakfast program as a whole has been a huge financial money pit for at least the past 15 years or so and is almost entirely subsidized by money generated from the lunch program. Overall, my company was making about 3-5 cents per meal by the time the dust settled. You're talking about profit margins of well under 1%. School districts have to put out an RFP usually every 3-5 years depending on local laws, and I have seen districts either receive single bids or no bids at all because there's almost no money to be made, particularly in smaller districts. I've seen companies pull out of districts mid-year because their projections were nowhere near reality, leaving districts scrambling to find new management companies.

Nobody is getting rich off of school food service. At least, not at the public school level. (Universities, hospitals, and even some private schools are a different story. I'm talking strictly about public schools.). The NSLP program has been severely under-funded for years. As a prime example, Michell Obama's Healthy meals act that was passed during Obama's presidency increased the average costs per meal in my area by about 14 cents per meal at the time, but compliance with the act only netted six cents in increased reimbursements. Doesn't sound like a lot, but if your district is serving 10,000 meals per day for 180 days a year, that 8 cent difference comes out to $144,000 that the district has to cover just to remain in compliance. School lunch programs are often the first to receive cuts whenever possible because school districts consider lunch a low priority. Many districts would do away with it entirely if they were legally allowed to. And federal reimbursements for free and reduced students are several years behind the times.

I could go on and on and on, but I'm sure you get the idea. Nobody's making money. If anyone has questions, I'd be more than happy to answer, but I just want to make sure everybody understands this.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody is getting rich off of school food service.

Thanks for your insight but I wasn't implying food service is profitable. I was trying to say money gets diverted elsewhere because it's so limited in its profit. American dollars chase profit above all else, even to the detriment of society as a whole.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I don't disagree.

I just felt I had to say that because I've had the argument with numerous people numerous times over the years, and there's a belief that the school food service companies that are out there are making money hand over fist off of school lunches. There's plenty of problems with school food service, but I can tell you that that is absolutely not one of them.

[–] turtle@lemm.ee 4 points 17 hours ago

You have no idea. The US is a complete capitalist dystopia. I finally realized this several months ago when I read news stories about "vanlords" renting broken down vans parked on the streets for people to live in, for hundreds of dollars a month.

[–] gothic_lemons@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

It's so refreshing to see non Americans react the way we Americans should. Feeding children, just one meal a day, is too big of an ask for too many Americans and "Christian" posers. There is even the added selling point, kids learn better when they aren't fucking hungry. Don't we want our kids smart or at least be able to learn? American is a shameful cruel place

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

How does the US even function?

Mostly by strip mining the rest of the planet for profit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_therapy_(economics)

Usually Economic Shock Treatment was doled out by countries like the USA via their clandestine operations of the CIA with the intent to subjugate potential trade partners and force absurdly good deals for the USA. This kind of tomfoolery is part of what has allowed the US to retain such economic dominance without having to deeply improve conditions internally, because we just steal the wealth of the rest of the world while never actually fixing our own shitshow of a government.

Only recently has it become the norm for nations to self-impose this insanity on themselves, like Javier Milei in Argentina or Donald Trump in the USA... Doing it yourself... doesn't work very well...

[–] Einstein@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 1 points 8 hours ago

And bootstraps!

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

The US functions?