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[–] TrontheTechie@infosec.pub 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is why I don’t fuck guys who “don’t pay attention to politics”.

That means one thing, and it isn’t that they are blissfully unaware of the day to day happenings in their town, county, state, region, country, or planet of residence.

[–] medgremlin@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It depends on why they don't pay attention to politics. Personally, I kind of have to go ostrich-mode and bury my head in the sand when school gets stressful because I just don't have the mental bandwidth to deal with both. I'm not going to judge someone too harshly for protecting their mental health from the absolute shitshow that is the American political landscape.

PS: This is not to say that any degree of modern conservatism is okay. Bigots can go fuck themselves and I'd be out punching Nazis and being a medic at protests if it didn't jeopardize my future so significantly. (Felony convictions make it really hard to get a medical license and I have to pay off my student loans somehow. Besides, I'll be in a much better position to make a meaningful difference as a physician than as a heavily indebted student or EMT.)

[–] b3nsn0w@pricefield.org 3 points 1 year ago

this. you can pay little attention to politics without being a "centrist" who isn't actually a centrist. news can be depressing as fuck, i'm hella glad i strongly limited my consumption of them, but that doesn't mean i'm gonna start both-sidesing shit. (with the exception of tankies vs nazis, because those two are in fact the same authoritarian, anti-west, bigoted crap under different flags that love to larp against each other)

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bartend. I was working on Easter, and one of our semi regulars came in with a guy that she was obviously on a drink date with. They'd been at at least one other bar before they came in; they'd had a couple drinks, but weren't past maybe tipsy.

At one point, she mentioned that the reason the last place they'd been to was slow was likely that it happened to be Easter. At the mention of the word the guy interrupted with,

"I REFUSE TO TALK ABOUT ANY POLITICS OR RELIGION!!"

To me this was a sign that this dude cared very much about religion and politics, but just like how scientologists don't drop the Xenu shit on you right away, he wanted to wait until any prospective partner was in too deep before revealing how abhorrent his views are.

That regular isn't my favorite person, but I was proud of her for pretty much ending that date after that.

[–] SquareRouteCanal@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s literally a bar rule. Lol. Alcohol makes people talk like they are on the internet in real life. Doesn’t make sense to discuss nuance when you’ve been drinking especially with the touchy subjects.

[–] complacent_jerboa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Alcohol makes people talk like they are on the internet in real life

fucking lol

[–] PostmodernPythia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Eh, sometimes it means another thing, namely that they know their conservatism is off-putting to most women and they’re lying to get you into bed.

[–] xHoudek@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s exactly what OP is saying

[–] PostmodernPythia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was responding to the previous comment, not OP. OP was saying conservatives get upset when people won’t sleep with them because they’re conservative. From the text of the comment I responded to, it looks like the person is saying “moderates” just don’t care about anyone but themselves. I’m adding that often the people the actual OP is talking about pretend to be the moderates the previous commenter is discussing.

[–] Lilli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

The person you responded to initially is talking about conservatives hiding that about themselves lol. That's why they said it the way they did.

[–] ophelia@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is my go-to response whenever anyone wants to start talking politics with me. Mainly because whenever someone wants to talk politics it's usually not because they're liberal and I really hate talking with people who just want to prove that their opinion is the right one.

I'll admit I've used it for similar reasons. What I really should be saying is "I'm sorry, but I don't want to talk about this right now." Maybe I'll even be brave and say "I don't want to talk about this with you." but it's rare for me to find a person I don't want to hear at all from. That usually comes up because they've already made their arguments, and I've already accepted or rebuttal the points to my own satisfaction. At that point they'll talk themselves into circles looking for justification for parts of their stance, but unable to articulate it themselves. I'll listen to anyone's views at least once, given I'm in the right mindset, but I still wouldn't date someone I don't morally agree with. Life partners should have higher standards than conversation partners, and aligning values is a bare minimum for relationships.