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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Even when people will do the right thing in 99.99% of situations, there will still need to be rules.
Just take a look at how game theory works. Anyone exploiting those mechanism in a group even if only one in a thousand, could devastate a society in no time , if it's naive enough to not have rules and norms for correct behavior, even when they are not usually needed.

I do like your thinking though, and I also have dreams of a future society where criminals are not punished but nurtured. Because it must have been awful to have been in a state of mind, to want to do something to hurt others.

I'm not sure it's possible though. But it is the ideal we should hopefully at some point strive for. But there still needs to be standards or "rules" for when people need help to be readjusted to functioning normally in society, if they get "confused".

But I still don't think anarchy will work, because so many things will need to be structured, and societies are getting bigger and more complex, which increases the need for rules to make societies work. So instead of anarchy I think we must expect more rules not fewer.

But probably in the future, many rules will be for machines and not for humans?

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Anarchy doesn't mean no rules, it means no rulers.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

OK so how are the rules upheld?
A democracy is a rule by the people who are ruled. What function would make anarchy better?
Who is this ruler that isn't present? How are rules decided? Who enforces those rules?
The only way I see to perform these functions rationally is by democracy.

[–] pip@slrpnk.net 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Democracy (proper democracy) is literally a social contract my dude. Anarchism uses democracy and consensus to make decisions. Are laws the only thing keeping you from not doing things??

[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Anarchism uses democracy and consensus to make decisions

Genuine question: Is that not a democracy?

[–] pip@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 hours ago

It could be? Being a democracy or using democracy as a tool for decision making doesn't mean it has to happen through government. If you've ever made a decision with a friend group via popular vote, does that make you a government? Or did you exercise authority over your friends when they all agreed popular vote was okay to decide where to eat out? I wager neither

And fyi, you're thinking of a representative democracy, which is rarely ever truly fair, especially considering the scale it's supposedly applied to.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

No, as there are no leaders

In a democracy you give your vote and have no say afterwards.
In an anarchy people need to work out their social rules together.
There could also be Anarchist societies with a police force, that ensures the basic democratically created roles of that society are followed - like protecting people from just more muscle who want to rape or steal from them.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

In a democracy you give your vote and have no say afterwards.

You're restricting democracy to mean representative democracy?