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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It sort of depends on how you define fediverse. If you mean things using the ActivityPub protocol and are federated with Mastodon, Lemmy, etc. then no, it's not part of the fediverse. If you mean anything using federated technology then you could possibly include it. https://docs.bsky.app/docs/advanced-guides/federation-architecture It uses something called AT instead of ActivityPub. I'm not personally aware of any other services or instances using it, but I also didn't look very hard.

Edit: I learned that the term AT Protocol uses for their version of fediverse is "atmosphere". So I wouldn't necessarily say it's part of the fediverse, but the context of the usage matters.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right, but you can't run your own instance so there's nothing to federate with.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

https://atproto.com/guides/self-hosting

Edit: After digging in a bit, I believe the thing most people would consider as "running an instance" would be an appview and/or relay. Both of which they claim are ready, I just haven't seen any. I think that part of the disconnect is that in ActivityPub the roles of what AT Protocol calls PDS, Relay, and AppView are all handled by a single instance. A PDS stores canonical data, a Relay aggregates PDSes, and an AppView is a UI reading from a relay.

https://github.com/bluesky-social/pds?tab=readme-ov-file#what-is-the-current-status-of-federation

[–] null@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

That lets you host your own data. You cannot host an instance. You must use the Bluesky app with your PDS.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What's preventing you from running your own Relay and/or AppView?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From what I've read, that's not possible, at least not yet. Currently, everything must go through their relay and it will only "federate" with PDS'

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 23 hours ago

It sort of sounds like they're trying to "have their cake and eat it too." It will be interesting to see where things go with it. I hope they choose to be more open with federating instead of trying to become Centralized Twitter 2.0.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I haven't looked deep into AT stuff tbh.