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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

In the USA the FASFA is used to determine how much financial aid (grants, or zero interest loans) someone can get for university

Unfortunately it looks at parents assets as well as the adult students assets.

Unless

  • over the age of 25
  • military veteran
  • married

So the loop hole here is obvious, two students should get married, then their financial need will be totally unmet and get the highest level of benefits

[–] qantravon@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I know someone who had to do this. Her parents were abusive and were refusing to do the FASFA paperwork, holding it over her head for something. She had already been in college a couple of years at this point. So, she found a friend she trusted and they got married, allowing her to get the funding she needed to continue to attend college.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

by such a large degree it's frightening. Waiting for the Bell riots to happen is taking forever

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My girlfriend was in a similar situation. The people at FASFA will work with you if you can prove that your parents will not comply and you aren't financially dependent on them. As long as your friend wasn't living with her parents, she likely didn't have to get married.

[–] qantravon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

She had tried working with them and they weren't giving her any other choice.

[–] BigLime@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm fr curious if this can work. If it does, it seems beyond impossible to find a 25 year old college woman who would even want to marry

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Two 18 year old students about to start university get married. I think it can even be same sex, marriage is marriage.

Remember Marriage isn't for life! You and your partner could get married with the understanding this is just a college marriage.

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Hey, let's just get married to be eligible for benefits. Yeah, we'll just pinky promise that we won't ever abuse the hell out of our 'partner' who we now share every single responsibility with. I also took out a huge loan to buy a boat, why are you asking, dear? Half of it is technically yours, why aren't you happy?"

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

two penniless students are judgement proof, so even in this scenario when they divorced there wouldn't be anything to recover. As a 18 year old with nothing, as long as you don't have kids, there is almost nothing to lose.

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's not about losing stuff, it's about gaining stuff. Debt, mostly.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's a whole abuse of the purpose of marriage, though

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

A loop hole that is technically correct is still correct.

What is the purpose of marriage?

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

Legally it is a shortcut to establishment of a number of implied contracts, tells the courts how to unwind those contracts, and rights. In some cases the implied contracts are more effective than written ones. Medical decisions and visitation rights being first ones I can think of.

I sm not a lawyer.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Two people bound together for life for the purposes of creating a family

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, you can miss me with the religious bullshit. This is a legal loophole in a legal system.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If it was for religious reasons, I would have specified it as a "man and a woman"

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Then what is your basis for it only being between two people? You're defining it just like religion does because that's where you got the idea even if you don't realize it.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because that's what marriage is and always has been, anything else is contrary to human nature

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Marriage is human nature? Legal documents providing specific legal protections in your specific country is human nature?

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Marriage is more than legal documents

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah, religion. Marriage has literally no basis in humanity except for religion and legal protection.

Living with someone doesn't require marriage. Procreation doesn't require marriage. Cooperation doesn't require marriage. Being with one person exclusively for life doesn't require marriage. It's literally just religion and laws, that's it.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Not in the situation being described here. The situation being described here is a method for people to legally untether themselves from their parents.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So divorce shouldn't be allowed in this philosophy?

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -5 points 2 weeks ago

Only as a last resort. You shouldn't get married without intending to stay together for life.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

"You shouldn't use marriage to stop yourself being legally chained to your parents. The purpose of marriage is to legally chain you to your spouse."

If people could "divorce" their parents you wouldn't have to worry about this.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Only two? That seems needlessly restrictive. Is it for religious reasons? Church and state should be separated.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If it was for religious reasons, I would have specified it as a "man and a woman"

Also, if it's more than two, that's not a marriage; that's a group chat.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 weeks ago

You still didn't explain why.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You're thinking about this all wrong. The age of marriage and childbearing have been going up. Think of the kids who would just decide fuck it might as well just stay married and do this. This could be the arranged marriage of the future.