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[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As much as Germany denies it, it has been proven in the last 10 or so years that they really loved their nazi days. France seems to also love having been under nazi occupation too, and they seem to have a similar anti-environmentalist attitude.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When did Anti-environmentalist tomfoolery become pro-Nazi?

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not the cause, it's the tactics. Throwing people in jail before they actually do anything is a classic hallmark of tyranny.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The tactics are tyrannical but not uniquely fascist. Jailing political opponents because they angered the crown is a European tradition that predates Rome.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fair. I guess fascist is just what humanity has come to call such things.

[–] mosscap@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago

Fascist is also what humanity uses to refer to actual fascism, which is having a pretty unfortunate resurgence at the moment. Its not just referring to tyranny.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

I heard someone call the removal of the green M&M fascism once. Just because people label it as such doesn't make it accurate.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Become"? No. It just has been for lone one of their indicative "modern" traits.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah that's incorrect.

https://facingtoday.facinghistory.org/examining-nazi-environmentalism-during-earth-week

Their motivations were still racist and bad, but the Nazis in Germany were not anti-environment.

Unless you mean modern Nazis, at which point ok maybe I haven't really researched modern Nazis. I know the people they support certainly are, whether they admit they're Nazis or not.

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean... They explicitly said "modern"

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On a thread about Nazi Germany, forgive me for staying on topic.

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

My bad, I didn't notice that.

I do think though that the parent comment was mainly referring to detaining people without due process when talking about Nazi Germany, rather than the environmental perspective.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Gonna need a source on that.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

More pro-fascism