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[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Okay. I don't typically get that caught up in the formatting of a number if the meaning is clear. 1k means 1000 in basically every context, and a unit indicator doesn't make it more confusing to me. Are you likewise baffled by something being written as "1km"?

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I have literally never seen k used in percentages before. Km is common, as is using it if you’re writing out LARGE numerical values (10k or above).

I’m not saying it’s difficult to understand. I’m saying it looks stupid.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Alright. And you felt the need to express that you thought it looked stupid to a person saying the meaning was clear to them, so they weren't upset?

Do you get why someone might think the meaning wasn't clear?

If it was your first time seeing the prefix used that way, and the meaning was immediately clear despite not being your style, why do you care?

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I really care about this, I’m literally losing sleep /s

God forbid I back up some folks on social media and say I agree with them

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 0 points 19 hours ago

You were backing someone up? I responded to someone asking how people weren't upset and you replied about how it's the worst. Telling someone they're wrong for not being irritated by something kinda feels like you care.

[–] lunarul@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A percentage is a dimensionless number, but percent is still a unit. Just think about how you use it. Something can increase by 5 students, or it can increase by 15%.

Regardless, is "m" standing for a concrete measure and ”%” for a proportional one really the source of since confusion and anger? What about db, or decibel? It's a measure of the ratio of quantities on a logarithmic scale, and is regularly applied to sound, electricity and other values. Is it as confusing?

[–] lunarul@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In all your examples, k is a prefix to the unit. You can have 1 km, or 1 kdB. But there's no such thing as a kilopercent and that's not how it was used in the title. It was the common informal shortening of 1000 to 1k. So it wasn't 1(k%), it was (1k)%. Which is an odd combination. It's not confusing, everyone understood what was meant, but it's still stupid and unnecessary.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

Okay. And as I said, I don't really get hung up on number formatting if the meaning was clear.

If it's not confusing, and it was understandable, why in hell do you care enough to argue about it even if it wasn't the style you'd prefer?

There's also "no such thing" as a decibel, since a bel is also not an official SI unit. Yet we all understood what you meant when you said kilodecibel (instead of the more formally proper "hectobel") despite it not being an SI unit and being two si prefixes attached improperly.

I fail to see the meaningful distinction between one thousand-percent and one-thousand percent. I agree that they used a common abbreviation for a number. I just don't actually care, which is what I said to the person incredulous that someone could not be upset.