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[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (10 children)

Oh for crying out loud. They surveyed LESS THAN 500 PEOPLE.

This "damning" new poll is bullshit. They're extrapolating out from 474 people polled to try and pretend like they can accurately tell me what 19 MILLION people think?

This is just sad.

Edit: lol at the downvote. But seriously, that's not a representative sample size. By several orders of magnitude. This is stupid.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

You don't understand how sample sizes or margins of error are calculated. That's why you're being downvoted.

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee -2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

Uh. 500 sample size. To estimate 19 million people's thoughts?

Ok. Sure. What's a "representative sample" then????

Edit: go read the source. The choice of wording alone gives away the fact that this is NOT a properly done analysis.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Read a damn stats book. Jesus Wept! This could literally be a question on a sophomore-level undergrad stats class, and you would fail that question.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They're typically in the couple thousand neighborhood. <500 is crazy small.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago

That was for the "Biden voters in swing states" poll, so a much smaller population than most polls. Most nationwide political polls of the general public were in the 1,000-1,500 range for a 2-3 point margin of error. Polls with larger sizes were likely to also get useful crosstabs.

MOE for this poll was +/-4.9%, which is high, but not "this is meaningless trash, what even is statistics?!?", especially when the headline numbers are just general sentiment rather than a head to head. In the worst case if "Gaza" was 24 and "the economy" was 29, it's not a very large difference in the finding.

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