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[–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They really have cut off their nose to spite their face imo. Only way this makes sense to me is that the users want a noble justification for their ignoble habit.

“The data would’ve ended up in China anyway since American apps would’ve sold it.” -Rationalizations of a feed addict fiending

[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 15 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Explain exactly how using a Chinese app will negatively impact the average American. Don't use vague threats, use evidence based examples. I'll wait.

[–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (4 children)

“Chinese app”? I’m sensing some defensiveness here.

Using any for profit data harvesting app has great financial incentive to negatively impact anyone, evidence based government back-doors or not.

I’m sure there’s some lovely Chinese-made fediverse wrappers or locally hosted communities with good moderation. Idk, I don’t speak Chinese.

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Have you ever been on tiktok? You will lose braincells quicker than drinking gasoline.

It should genuinely be considered self harm to have a tiktok account.

[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't disagree, but I also feel the same about X and Facebook and neither of them have copped a ban.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, but don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'd rather no moderation than one sided political moderation.

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[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I agree with you, but that's a Meta scandal. If anything it proves that the right move would be to regulate the platforms. Not just ban foreign ones.

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Oh yes, I agree! I provided an example of a TikTok campaign in a later comment. It's not the source that's the problem, it's that everyone is trying to manipulate (but the ones controlling the platform have way more feedback and control, of course).

[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You've gotta be more specific than chucking a wiki link to a UK data company, champ.

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (5 children)
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[–] gubblebumbum@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It allows any pos to spread their garbage misinformed opinions as facts. its full of adult weirdos making softcore porn knowing the platform is full of minors and many intentionally targeting their content towards them. Its full of grifters peddling pseudoscientific supplements, cosmetics, medical advice etc. Its full of rwnj and pseudo progressives from all over the world spreading populist propaganda. It also makes it easy for any anti social pos to get famous.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] gubblebumbum@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago

which is banned where i live

[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago

Sorry, are you describing X or Facebook with your comment?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

China controlling the narrative might be a bit worrying. Not sure how much that reflects in the daily life of a single person but for societies it does have some implications.

[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's no more worrying than the misinformation being spread on Facebook and X, in large part by Russian troll farms or Murdoch's media empire, but somehow it's China that's the real problem. I see no reason why anyone should be fear mongering about the dangers of using a Chinese app any more than using X.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago (23 children)

I mean imo all sort narrative building and interference is worrying and from a government perspective of course foreign actions and platforms are more worrying. China and Russia being very clearly rivals if not outright enemies of the US, it is more worrying because of that.

[–] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Any enemy of the US is a friend of mine

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

Sounds a bit naive

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How's it worse for china to have it than American companies. If anything American ones have more access to you to fuck you over. All of them should be banned/heavily regulated for privacy. Not just tiktok.

[–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I didn’t say anything about worse.