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[–] Mordachai_Shedbacon@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's convenient. It's where all my playlists are... that said, I'm open to alternatives?

[–] Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  1. Listen on YT with adblock
  2. Download audio with Newpipe (OPUS 160kbps)
  3. Manage files with Amaze
  4. Listen with VLC

I like this model, because YT has niche creators and I dont have to care about "Spotify changes X" news. Note: I have 1.5GB songs stored locally and listen ~30 minutes daily. I acknowledge discovering new songs is slower

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Learn something new every day!

What devices can play OPUS format?

[–] can@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

What's OPUS compression like?

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

You can just use NewPipe background player. NewPipe lets you create and save playlists. No ads.

[–] krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

download mp3s from youtube. Use rhythmbox on linux and metro on android. Metro even tries to find the lyrics online

[–] iso@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now thats what inconvenient is.

[–] krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find it inconvenient to have limited skips and depend on one service to give you the song you want with the version you want. Also spotify ui doesn't make sense to me, things just don't work at times. Not to mention the ads.

[–] zpoex@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you pay for premium you won't have most of those problems...

[–] krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't like paid services, especially when you can get the same or most of the same stuff for free. It's just not worth it for me, so that is my suggested alternative, doesn't work for everyone.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Unlike movie and tv streaming music streaming convenience is no contest for piracy if you're an enthusiastic.

And this is coming from someone would download albums and discogrpahies, using programs to meticulously tag and organize them. I wish I had the time and patience now, and for the highlights of my collection I will, but with my music craving a music stream subscription is well worth it.

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Mp3s from YT are garbage quality, it's double transcoding from YT's already low quality input.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. If you’re gonna be downloading music from youtube, might as well just torrent flac or at least 320kbps quality instead.

[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Torrents mostly have pop music ime.

(Popular music trendy, ie Brittany Spears, Eminem, etc.)

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

😂 torrents and Usenet have everything.

[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any good spots for oz music? Hiphop...

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I’m not sure, don’t listen to it sorry. Pirate bay?

[–] can@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Um, you need a hookup?

[–] krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I haven't noticed any quality issues and I only listen to mp3s from youtube

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then you probably don't know any better because the vast majority of YT uploads are terrible quality. If you have anywhere near decent headphones/earbuds you can hear the difference immediately.

[–] krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Well I've used spotify with and without headphones on popular phones, I can't tell the difference from youtube. I usually download the music directly from the original uploader.

[–] realcaseyrollins@kbin.projectsegfau.lt 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can download relatively good sounding audio from YouTube but you need to be using the right format in YouTube-DL, which not all downloaders do

[–] can@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

What about NewPipe?

[–] Destragras@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can download audio from YouTube as 160kbps opus files, which aren't lossless sure but it's the highest quality you can get from YouTube if alternate means aren't an option.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Destragras@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

For mp3 sure, but for opus standards 160kbps is great. I read that 128kbps is generally considered the most you need but 160kbps smooths over any artifacts, assuming the source file doesn't have them.

[–] red@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And that's trusting that whoever uploaded the track had a good quality source. And it's still double encoded.

[–] Pulp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any official uploads from recent years are going to be just fine. And if not then maybe their spotify upload is broken too

[–] red@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Hq is equivalent to 320kbps, noticably better than YT quality

[–] jochem@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was big into downloading before streaming services were a thing. Music streaming is one of the few services that's totally worth my money: no hassle and I rarely have to resort to other platforms to find what I want (very different from video streaming, which totally sucks when it comes to that).

[–] ribboo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100% this. Paying $12 a month for basically all music I’ll ever want to listen to, is just an amazing deal. It’s so convenient. Felt the same when Netflix came about. But now when I need like 6 services, and there’s still lots not on them. Piracy is just so much more convenient.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Felt the same when Netflix came about. But now when I need like 6 services, and there’s still lots not on them. Piracy is just so much more convenient.

Yep, that's the step they forgot: be more convenient than the pirates.

[–] Psychonaut1969@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can I use any of those at the same time I am playing a game on ps3/ps4/ps5 they way they have integrated spotify? I use spotify because it is available on the devices I use. I would use bandcamp on them if it were an option as I love my collection there but, it is not available on many of the devices I use.

[–] krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

personally I don't find that convinience worth it for the money/ads and other inconveniences, but that varies from person to person

[–] can@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, piracy, but I'd say apple music or tidal, etc are even better than Spotify. There are services for transferring your playlists.

Some are paid but if it's just a one time transfer you could do them all in a free trial window.

[–] stagen@feddit.dk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Been using Soundiiz.com for that!

[–] can@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

That's the one! I'm sure there's many options though.

People, don't let your playlists stop you from shopping around streaming services.