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[–] unfnknblvbl@beehaw.org 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As a Spotify Artist, I bet I don't even see a single hundredth of a penny for somebody paying extra for the lyrics, either...

And even if Spotify did pay out extra for lyrics, I'm sure they'd find a way to screw my band out of royalties like they currently are anyway.

[–] stagen@feddit.dk 18 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I’ve never used the free tier on Spotify and I don’t understand how anyone can. The ads alone would make me throw off my headset in disgust. So yeah, not going to affect me, and I do enjoy reading the lyrics a lot.

That said, I am experimenting with swapping over to Apple Music because I feel Spotify has become too expensive.

[–] rockhandle@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

With xManager, the free tier comes quite close to premium. No ads, play whatever music you like. The only issues are lower sound quality & no downloads, which are really non-issues since you can just find other sources to download the music from, at flac quality

[–] bblfrnz@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago (8 children)

The ads alone would make me throw off my headset in disgust.

For a mobile, there is a modded apk,I've never heard ads there. For a PC, web player in Firefox with uBlock Origin, there are no ads at all there. The same goes for Tidal, I've never paid for these apps.

[–] hunt4peas@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] bblfrnz@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)
  1. spotx - well, I tried, but honestly, I don't need one more app especially when everything works in the browser. Plus, I prefer portable setups and there's no portable version of spotx, so, it's pretty useless for me.
  2. It's explicitly said on the Spowlo GitHub page that they use YouTube for downloading, so, there's no way to get 320 kbps tracks or flacs. Instead, I'd recommend to try some Qobuz/Deezer-based solutions, there are quite a few of them there. Or use slavart or something like this, or good old soulseek, there's even an Android client for it.
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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The ads aren't even for anything. It was just really patronising ads for Spotify Premium.

Their business model is genuinely to just annoy you into paying.

[–] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It only annoyed me into stopping using their service

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You either pay or you leave. Spotify wins, in both cases

[–] bonfire921@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago

OR you get an adblocker

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[–] lud@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It does make sense though since Spotify has to pay musixmatch for the service.

[–] wecalledhimmavis@beehaw.org 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

who crowdsource a heap of their lyrics, paying a pittance to their curators 🙄

[–] lud@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

That's true. But to be fair, I have added one song and synced a few. I didn't do it because I wanted pay, I did it because I wanted the song's lyrics to be on Spotify and on the app.

They built a service and people seem to like it, so I don't mind.

[–] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Do the people who wrote those lyrics get a cut of Spotify gatekeeping them?

[–] Hauskrampf@ttrpg.network 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

hahahahaha spotify and paying someone lol

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Spotify is not profitable right now; their current revenue doesn't come anywhere close to covering their costs. The only reason they're able to survive is investors holding on to the belief that, some day, it'll be possible to actually make the numbers work.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

The majority of their investors are record labels now, so there's also an incentive to prevent competing streamers from taking Spotify's position

[–] sparky678348@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (32 children)

Spotify purchases their lyrics from Musixmatch

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[–] kworpy@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (14 children)

I just love watching everyone freak out about Spotify's shitty business practices while I'm casually looping YouTube videos with an adblocker.

[–] DaDragon@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Eh, I switched to Spotify last year (++, of course) and there’s a lot to be said in favour of the Spotify algorithm when it comes to music recommendations, as opposed to YouTube.

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[–] cambriakilgannon@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

ublock origin blocks spotify ads well. I have found a lot of new artists using spotify, I avoided it for a pretty long time. When I find artists I like I usually buy their stuff on bandcamp cause i can get flacs

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Even then you might not see them. I've noticed recently that a ton of songs that used to have the lyrics attached no longer show the lyrics or have the button to show them. And I do have premium.

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[–] darkl1nk@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

Recently ditched subscription services because of non-stop price hikes. Now I'm on Navidrome with a VPS and using Ultrasonic on my Android for mobile and Android Auto listening. For music, I turn to good old Soulseek and Telegram bots.

Never going back. The control and savings make it all worth it.

[–] MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Solid business decision by Spotify here, I support this move. I’ll probably switch over to them from YouTube music.

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[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

To be fair, Spotify is unsuable without premium.

[–] Kir@feddit.it 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Spotify is unusable without ~~premium~~ Xmanager

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[–] RedBaronHarkonnen@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Free on vimusic.

[–] XYZinferno@lemmy.basedcount.com 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Music is one of the easiest things to pirate, so much so that I often forget me downloading flacs of the songs I listen to is supposed to be a no-no

Between a flac playing app (Musicolet on Android and MusicBee on PC) as well as YT Music Revanced, things go smoothly

[–] ArcRay@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The only reason I don't pirate music is because of discovery. I haven't found a good way to find new music without using a streaming service. And then, I'm already using a streaming service, so why bother.

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[–] emhl@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're still visible with the current xmanager version

[–] Bloodyashes@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah but the change is server sided so it will stop working soon I suppose.

[–] crag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No. Xmanager patch unlocks premium features. So literally you're a premium user.

[–] iamroot@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago

It depends on whether the feature is server-side restricted. For example, xManager can't set audio quality to very high.

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