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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
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Maybe they’re counting on it being like San Marino only more Galty
San Marino pre-date the EU and most of the nations in it - they claim to be the oldest republic in the world. The techbros don't have history on their side. Actually, moving en masse to a micronation like San Marino then taking control of the government and the media wouldn't be a bad way to get their libertarian/fascist paradise - it's what the Scientologists tried to do in Clearwater, Florida. The downside to creating your libertarian/fascist state is that you then have to live in it, though, and it sucks.
The other possible exemplar could be Vatican City. Which, granted, is more ambitious, though what history shows is that having sympathetic fascists in power in the host country can go a long way.
I think the impetus for Mussolini to sign the Lateran accords was more to show he could solve the question of how the legacy of the Papal states should be handled, and maybe to appease the more conservative parts of Italian society, rather than cede a part of Italy to another state. After all, the Papal States had been around for longer than most of the constituent parts of the Kingdom of Italy and had real claims on territory.